Reserve Rules with new CBA
How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?
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Originally Posted by thatpilotbro
(Post 3763162)
How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?
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Originally Posted by thatpilotbro
(Post 3763162)
How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1. LCO pay multiples apply to reserve as of Feb 1. the other big changes are down the road. |
Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
(Post 3763194)
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1.
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
(Post 3763194)
15 minutes extra callout time implemeted at DOR.
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1. LCO pay multiples apply to reserve as of Feb 1. the other big changes are down the road. Who knows how reserve proffer and ELLIT will work but thata not for 2 yrs so who cares. I wouldnt go to say vastly better but it claws some of the pain back. Straight senority on reserve call out would have made it go more senior. Bottom line is if you're on reserve you're going to work |
Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 3763214)
yeah but we also gave them the ability to slide our reserve times so they could get out of that short notice call and all that comes with it.
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
(Post 3763238)
no we didn't. They've always had the ability to customize rap times and do it monthly by base. What this CBA did do is lock those times in and add extra pay. You think they are going to burn everyones' duty day by an extra hour just to save the occasional premium pay? I don't. Talk about shooting themselves in their own foot!
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Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 3763385)
they've always had the ability to move a 0300 rap to 0230? I didnt know that.
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
(Post 3763594)
They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
(Post 3763594)
They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.
There is some stuff in this contract that'll have to fixed in 10 year that wasnt in there a month ago. |
Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 3763631)
so instead of paying premium because the flight doesnt fit a reserve RAP they now can move the RAP so it fits. Genius
There is some stuff in this contract that'll have to fixed in 10 year that wasnt in there a month ago. |
Originally Posted by GoodJet
(Post 3763636)
On reserve at SWA can you pick up open flying on your days off?
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
(Post 3763650)
In theory yes, but in reality it is very difficult because of the way they build the buffers for your future block time.
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna;[url=tel:3763650
3763650]In theory yes, but in reality it is very difficult because of the way they build the buffers for your future block time.
. Reason being your block liability reduces after each reserve duty period is complete. Since you’ll never actually block the amount buffered, you become more legal as the month progresses. Issue is in month line February, where most open time if being scarfed up straight, especially during the weekdays when a new hire is off. And TTGA is picked through. So by the time you become legal you can’t anything. Sometime a better play for non commuters one reserve is to pick up additional reserve from open time. It’s always less competitive to bid them, and if your MTD is already high you have a good chance of not being used during the week in a slow month. Unfortunately, the company can remove reserve from open time in January and February. Big give away a few contracts ago and wasn’t rectified this time around. |
Originally Posted by GoodJet
(Post 3763651)
Thank you
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
(Post 3763636)
On reserve at SWA can you pick up open flying on your days off?
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
(Post 3763678)
Yes. reserve blocks or pairings. Your choice. SWA doesn't limit what you can do just because you're on reserve.
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
(Post 3763636)
On reserve at SWA can you pick up open flying on your days off?
yes. I’m usually legal to pick up 2-3 days OT. Could do more but I’m lazy and don’t want to be on the hook for that many days a month. I avg 120-130 a month on rsv with 2-3 days of pick ups from TTGA and letting sked doing their thing. |
Originally Posted by GoodJet
(Post 3763686)
Must be nice...
Something else, we can also trade pairings between reserves and line holders too and across bases. So if I'm LAX reserve and want to trade a LAS lineholder for his trip, we can do that too. I don't know why most if not all legacies don't allow trades between lineholders and reserves. |
What? You mean the language is weak in this contract? Here's my surprised face?
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3763740)
It is.
Something else, we can also trade pairings between reserves and line holders too and across bases. So if I'm LAX reserve and want to trade a LAS lineholder for his trip, we can do that too. I don't know why most if not all legacies don't allow trades between lineholders and reserves. We can not add reserve days on days off AFAIK. |
Originally Posted by GoodJet
(Post 3764115)
My shop just shut down reserve pick up for 3 months due to the fact that reserve pick up isn't in the CBA. It's in a LOA that the company can shut down with 30 days notice. They did give reserves the ability to pick up sim sessions as seat subs on days off as a consolation prize. However the sim center is pretty empty due to slowing hiring. So I think that is more of just a token gesture. My hope is that they let us keep reserves being allowed to continue pick up seat subs when reserve pick up comes back in June. We are not athorized to pick up pilot to pilot on days off.
We can not add reserve days on days off AFAIK. |
Originally Posted by Dahflyboy18
(Post 3764131)
why on earth do they care if you pick up from another pilot? That doesn’t cost the company anything
I have a lot of similar questions to you but this is the wrong forum. However, if I ask on the correct forum I am told that if I don't like it I should leave and go somewhere else... |
Originally Posted by 5tools
(Post 3763987)
What? You mean the language is weak in this contract? Here's my surprised face?
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Originally Posted by mulcher
(Post 3764156)
Seeing the questions on FB 2028 is funny. The majority didn’t look past rates and retro. Shocking it isnt!
we need to move past this idea that if the NC days it's good then everyone should just vote yes. I havent flown with a single person who knows anything about the new rules., implementation, etc. I've stopped explaining it to them. |
SWAPA claims this contract is the best in the industry, so that must mean the reserve rules are the best in the industry does it not? I voted no, so I'm just asking.
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Originally Posted by 5tools
(Post 3766587)
SWAPA claims this contract is the best in the industry, so that must mean the reserve rules are the best in the industry does it not? I voted no, so I'm just asking.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3763740)
It is.
Something else, we can also trade pairings between reserves and line holders too and across bases. So if I'm LAX reserve and want to trade a LAS lineholder for his trip, we can do that too. I don't know why most if not all legacies don't allow trades between lineholders and reserves. As for the out of base thing, it varies, and some places (Delta) are very parochial about "their bases flying", stemming, I guess, back from when everyone was supposed to live in base. Even the contractually permitted out of base stuff gets some people shouting. But my friends from the NWA side just shrug, and say it wasn't a big deal at all there because everyone commuted anyway. |
Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
(Post 3763650)
In theory yes, but in reality it is very difficult because of the way they build the buffers for your future block time.
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
(Post 3763651)
Thank you
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