O you’re going to get a steller answer on this one… it’s a foundational part of the Eskimo pilot group that’s hopefully changing but will still take quite some time.

And what do you base this theory on? Your opinion alone? The fact is that SWA has never fourloughed or filed Bankruptcy in its almost 50 years of existence. Facts are facts you can disagree how they got there, but I don't think luck had much to do with it.

Alaska has layoff and furloughed employees in the past. SWA has never done that. Just a fact.

Alright. This is like arguing with my dog. You've either been at SWA so long you are a hopeless Koolie or so short that you just don't have any experience.

The poster also conviently fails to mention the company's attempt to install Force Majeure during the threats of furlough ---DURING Section 6 Negotiations---.

Or the $26.9 Million in bonuses to 9 senior people during the 1,221 debacle.

Or SWAPA's multiple attempts to meet with the company to come to a mutual agreement on cost cutting, where management's recalcitrant attitude was put on full display with ZERO engagement or MOA's and statements like; '...we have levers to pull, SWAPA does not...". Almost every other airline worked with their union and developed MOA's (sometimes multiple MOA's) as the virus worked its way through society. SWA managers of that time? Nothing.

Sorry. The person you're responding to wasn't on property, or they are willfully ignorant.

BTW, the poster clearly wasn't here because I can tell you for a fact that holding to hard copy of a WARN a week and a half before Christmas isn't just a threat.

Bless Their Heart! We should listen more to their cogent and developed arguments. They probably read allllllll about it as they were wondering why a major hadn't called them after their extensive 2 years at a regional.

I think you’re overshooting. Sounds like a bottom of the heap 225 droid. I’d expect to see more of this.

"Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts. Facts are the most important thing in business. Study facts and do more than is expected of you. Any fact is better established by two or three good testimonies than by a thousand arguments."

You guys can argue and cry all you want, but it does not change the facts.

The never declared bankruptcy like you said. This is a fact.

Alaska didn’t cancel pilot pensions. The program is still alive and well for pilots hired prior to 2009.
the pilot group voted to get rid of it for pilots hired after that. So, that is how.

He's obvioulsy a hopeless long term or short term Kookie. They sent out WARN Notices just prior to Christmas for God's sake. Ask yourself this, Is the company making moves like restructuring the board with pro-current management people, buying 2.5 in additional share repurchases, etc... because they are more concerned about the future prosperity of the company or because they are trying to save their own backsides? They've had plenty of years to fix this mess.