Originally Posted by SherpaLifter (Post 1222510)

I hope SWA takes the redeyes and SL14 prohibits CDO's (I personally don't think they are safe, so I avoid them at all costs).

Originally Posted by SherpaLifter (Post 1222510)

Maybe it's the labels that are confusing, but you do know there is a difference between a redeye and a CDO. A redeye is a flight usually from the west coast to a destination east of the Mississippi which arrives around sunrise. Your duty period usually starts after 2200L. On the other hand, a CDO (also called a stand up) can be between any 2 points, but has an intervening short stay in a hotel, 5-7 hours, which doesn't reset the duty clock as it keeps running (hence the "continuous" part of CDO). Usually a redeye is one leg. CDO's are usually round trips between city pairs (for AT it's ATL-XXX-ATL) during the same duty period.

In any case, I hope SWA takes the redeyes and SL14 prohibits CDO's (I personally don't think they are safe, so I avoid them at all costs).

Originally Posted by tr4a (Post 1222699)

SL14 addresses the CDO. Maximum ground time can only be 2:30.

Originally Posted by SherpaLifter (Post 1223204)

Is that for any type of flying or just between certain hours? Last month I had a 3 leg trip with a 3:55 ground time in SJU. Sitting for more than 3 hours is common at AT. Makes a long day longer and wastes your time. I suspect it will get worse as airplanes cross the fence.