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GizmoNC 05-19-2013 01:26 PM

SWA Overwater certification ?
 
Does anyone have any idea what the status of SWA's overwater certification program is at this time? How far completed is it at this point? Estimated date for flights to locations besides SJU. Or is SWA waiting on Amadeus upgrade to their reservations system in order to start flying to these cities.

27 driver 05-20-2013 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoNC (Post 1412309)
Does anyone have any idea what the status of SWA's overwater certification program is at this time? How far completed is it at this point? Estimated date for flights to locations besides SJU. Or is SWA waiting on Amadeus upgrade to their reservations system in order to start flying to these cities.

I believe they will need the new reservations system for assigned seating requirements. When that is ready is anyone's guess.

OnTheKlacker 05-23-2013 10:48 PM

TO: ALL PILOTS
FROM: VICE PRESIDENT FLIGHT OPERATIONS DATE: MAY 17, 2013
RE: Completion of Class II Navigation Validation Flights

Southwest Airlines successfully completed FAA validation flights for Class II Navigation and extended overwater operations. These non-revenue flights were operated from BWI to SJU on Class II routes through WATRS airspace and validated our training, procedures, and contingencies for both Flight Crews and Dispatchers. In the coming days, the FAA will officially approve our request to add these authorizations to our OpSpecs.

Training for these procedures is still underway and will be completed in the next few months. We plan to begin operating Class II routes in August.

80ktsClamp 05-24-2013 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by OnTheKlacker (Post 1415013)
TO: ALL PILOTS
FROM: VICE PRESIDENT FLIGHT OPERATIONS DATE: MAY 17, 2013
RE: Completion of Class II Navigation Validation Flights

Southwest Airlines successfully completed FAA validation flights for Class II Navigation and extended overwater operations. These non-revenue flights were operated from BWI to SJU on Class II routes through WATRS airspace and validated our training, procedures, and contingencies for both Flight Crews and Dispatchers. In the coming days, the FAA will officially approve our request to add these authorizations to our OpSpecs.

Training for these procedures is still underway and will be completed in the next few months. We plan to begin operating Class II routes in August.

Welcome to the 1950's, WN. ;)

4th Level 05-24-2013 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by 27 driver (Post 1412615)
I believe they will need the new reservations system for assigned seating requirements. When that is ready is anyone's guess.


There is no requirement for assigned seating.

MaxPowers 08-14-2013 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by 4th Level (Post 1415362)
There is no requirement for assigned seating.

Not for Overwater or Class II . . . . the requirement applies to International Ops.

MatthewAMEL 08-14-2013 04:17 PM

...nevermind

MaxPowers 08-15-2013 06:16 AM

If you look at Flightaware history for the past few weeks, SWA has been doing BWI-SJU, but they are definitely not operating in the WATRS area. . . . Looks like everything's going over NUCAR and GTK, so not sure if that's still 162 or not, but definitely not WATRS.

4th Level 08-19-2013 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by MaxPowers (Post 1462956)
Not for Overwater or Class II . . . . the requirement applies to International Ops.

Incorrect.

There are no requirements for assigned seating on international flights.

Haywood 08-19-2013 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by 4th Level (Post 1465611)
Incorrect.

There are no requirements for assigned seating on international flights.

You sound like you're in the know. What's taking so long then?


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