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whalesurfer 10-28-2015 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2000042)
65% or greater NO. There's no way in hell this thing is passing.

That's what they predicted over at FDX too.. ..and yet it passed with flying colors... :(

Hope you guys/gals lead the way...

MatthewAMEL 10-29-2015 04:48 PM

Hold up...

The FedEx deal was hardly 'flying colors'. 53/47.

I also think it'll pass, but in the low 50's.

whalesurfer 10-29-2015 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 2002354)
Hold up...

The FedEx deal was hardly 'flying colors'. 53/47.

I also think it'll pass, but in the low 50's.

It passed 57/43. Flying colors considering everyone predicted it'd fail by 65% or more..

El Senor Clown 10-30-2015 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by whalesurfer (Post 2002378)
It passed 57/43. Flying colors considering everyone predicted it'd fail by 65% or more..

Nope, I told everyone I fly with this month it pass. what a bunch of clowns

JDFlyer 10-30-2015 07:54 PM

Unfortunately, I think you all are right - it will pass.

I voted 'no'. But every Captain I have flown with in the last month said they were a 'yes' vote.

I don't really believe the world will end with a overall yes vote. I will certainly stand to make more money in the short term.

But I still think our leverage to advance our collective economic and career interests as a pilot group has never been, nor ever will be greater than it is now.

Thunder1 10-30-2015 09:03 PM

I voted NO; however, I am predicting it will pass 55% to 45%.

Too much money on the table for many people to pass up. Also, as time has passed from the initial release of the TA many, many pilots I have flown with and talked to have softened their initial stance and are not afraid of the codeshare language or the subsets.

The reason I have most often heard regarding the softening views and hence leaning YES votes are:
1) Lot of money to leave on the table. Better to win the long term game with singles and doubles than always try and get a home run.
2) Codeshare -- not afraid of it since: a) NO domestic codeshare b) ALL north/south trans-border flights have to be flown by SWA pilots c) All East/West codeshare flights, i.e. longer range than 737s have to have a leg flown on SWA metal once they get to the U.S.
3) Subsets -- very costly to the company. Actual overlap will be very small. First MAX in 3Q17 while we draw down the Classics. Will be a relatively small overlap and for a relatively short time.

I don't necessarily agree with the reasoning above but I am starting to see more and more guys soften their tone and appear to be leaning towards a YES vote. Just what I am seeing and hearing on the line and also in the crew lounges.
We will all know in 5 days.


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