Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Southwest (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/southwest/)
-   -   737 MAX covered by current contract? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/southwest/93727-737-max-covered-current-contract.html)

Sa227capt 03-11-2016 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 2084249)
Ahh....from someone who may not be that familiar with the RLA and status quo. So a pilot refuses a jet with 5 write ups when historically, over his 15 year career, he flew jets time and time again with even more write ups. Could Company fire you? Of course. Depends how far the Company wants to take it. RLA is against the pilots today - you don't have nearly the leverage you once had.

I think what Whack may have been referring to, or at least how I took it, is the process of not letting maintenance know of minor things like logo lights, wheel well lights, or seat issues, etc. and carrying them instead of writing them up all to save the almighty dollar...

WHACKMASTER 03-25-2016 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Sa227capt (Post 2087054)
I think what Whack may have been referring to, or at least how I took it, is the process of not letting maintenance know of minor things like logo lights, wheel well lights, or seat issues, etc. and carrying them instead of writing them up all to save the almighty dollar...

That's precisely it and also to keep the operation running on time. Some of those items weren't that minor either. If it's broken do your damn job and write it up no matter how minor it is or in what city you discover it. Simple.

Rolf 03-25-2016 09:50 PM

I assume you are holding up your end of the bargain and refuse to fly a broke jet? What are your thoughts on the new SWAPA platform and are you wearing your pin?

WHACKMASTER 03-26-2016 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by Rolf (Post 2096726)
I assume you are holding up your end of the bargain and refuse to fly a broke jet? What are your thoughts on the new SWAPA platform and are you wearing your pin?

Of course I'm not going to fly a broken aircraft. For the life of me I just can't figure out this reluctance to have maintenance come fix something that needs attention. Actually it goes beyond trying to keep the operation moving as I've witnessed it even on lengthy turns through a maintenance city.

Andy 03-26-2016 12:30 AM

All the best to everyone at Southwest.

You guys (SWAPA) kept the entire profession from falling into an even deeper abyss post-911 by raising the bar while the rest of us were lowering the bar and falling on our collective a$$es. Thank you very much.


Perhaps emphasizing taxi speeds for safety would be beneficial? Anyone know the top speed of a 'brisk walk'?

brakechatter 03-26-2016 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2096745)
You guys (SWAPA) kept the entire profession from falling into an even deeper abyss post-911 by raising the bar while the rest of us were lowering the bar and falling on our collective a$$es. Thank you very much.

Not even close to true, but I am glad to see SWA stepping up and pushing back.

cencal83406 03-26-2016 04:45 AM

I've never understood the carry it mentality either. Who cares if it's a light or a screw, put it in the damn book and let MX figure it out. It's usually deferrable anyway so it's not like the little stuff throws off the on-time. I wouldn't want to make it easy for the company to detect a "change" in how I treat my aircraft.

WHACKMASTER 03-26-2016 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 2096788)
I've never understood the carry it mentality either. Who cares if it's a light or a screw, put it in the damn book and let MX figure it out. It's usually deferrable anyway so it's not like the little stuff throws off the on-time. I wouldn't want to make it easy for the company to detect a "change" in how I treat my aircraft.

You are a very smart man. Thumbs up!

Sa227capt 03-27-2016 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Rolf (Post 2096726)
I assume you are holding up your end of the bargain and refuse to fly a broke jet? What are your thoughts on the new SWAPA platform and are you wearing your pin?


Darn right I am. I love the new platform and YES I am wearing my pin!:cool:

JDFlyer 03-29-2016 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by brakechatter (Post 2096773)
Not even close to true, but I am glad to see SWA stepping up and pushing back.

Really?? How many more mainline flying jobs are the Legacies willing to "outsource" to postpubescent pilots flying Barbie Jets??

Are you aware how many jobs we outsource here at SWA?

ZERO. We NEVER have, and we NEVER will.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:06 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands