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Old 03-26-2016, 05:20 PM
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Didn't the pilots complain for years and get the company to cave and allow this new jacket?

I'm not wild about how they look and won't be buying one. The leather jacket, when properly sized and zipped up, looks good.

Unfortunately, plenty of guys at all airlines who don't wear the proper size of various uniform items. Giant baggy shirts, pants that bunch up around the ankles, yellow/stained shirts, thick rubber-soled shoes. My buddies with jobs outside the industry don't dress like that - why do we?
Bingo. Absolutely right. The answer is that those individuals have no clue about how to dress properly or they just don't care. Either way they need to get a clue because they look like slobs. You don't see an Etihad, Lufthansa, or Air France crew looking like that. It's mostly an American phenomenon.
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Old 03-27-2016, 01:05 AM
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At Atlas we have no less than 27 types of jackets you can wear! I go for the fly fishing fleece myself
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Old 03-27-2016, 04:17 AM
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Sweet touch to have the collar in the up position ala 1980's preppy members only fashion. And the name tag needs to see a doctor because it's been more than four hours in the erect position. Just another cut to the profession of airline pilot.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER View Post
COMPLETELY agree Zap except for the part about ditching the tie. The leather jackets look unprofessional to say the least. This lightweight jacket is just appalling to see on an airline pilot. And the profession continues to erode into the $h!tter......
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:26 PM
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I like my $20 Kirkland jacket. I'll be keeping it.
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Old 04-02-2016, 07:54 PM
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Not sure of what I think about it. It almost looks "stiff." I'm interested in the cold weather aspect--is it warmer than a leather jacket? We may not know until next year I guess...
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER View Post
COMPLETELY agree Zap except for the part about ditching the tie. The leather jackets look unprofessional to say the least. This lightweight jacket is just appalling to see on an airline pilot. And the profession continues to erode into the $h!tter......
This is the first post of yours I really like!

I agree, you want raises, better work rules, etc but you can't look and play the part at work...pathetic
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ANGFlight81 View Post
This is the first post of yours I really like!

I agree, you want raises, better work rules, etc but you can't look and play the part at work...pathetic
I think everyone just needs to relax a bit. Uniforms change and adapt to the practical work conditions. Military, cops, firemen, doctors and nurses are a few examples. George Washington's soldiers had some sweet digs back in the day... as did Grant's during the Civil War. NYPD cops back in the 30s and 40s had some of the best looking uniforms a public servant could wear. They figured out that they weren't too practical when chasing a perp down 37th street. Speaking of the 30s and 40s... have a look at some newsreel footage of a ballgame... everyone in their Sunday best. Jackets and fedoras for the mean. Dresses for the ladies.

In the private sector we now have "business casual" and Hawaiian shirt Fridays. Doctors and nurses wear scrubs 24/7. The military, cops and firemen all wear BDU's. The days of the Pan Am Clipper pilot are long gone. They were pretty awesome, but everyone has moved on... not just pilots.

Version 1.0 of the lightweight jacket aint perfect, but it's a nice option to have in the tool kit. Especially for commuters who don't want to have two carry on bags... one roller and one 20lb side of beef/leather jacket.

Clean, pressed and properly fitted shirt/pants, as well as shined shoes and being well groomed are what really make the difference.

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Old 04-03-2016, 12:41 PM
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Someone gets it!
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:42 PM
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My $8 all black jacket from target is awesome.

On another note, I had a captain tell me that the company wants the work groups to think SWA is still a little upstart Texas airline so that they keep sacrificing a la 1970's fuel purchasing. This mindset keeps people from complaining about some of the conditions we work under. People forget that SWA is an industry leading airline sometimes. That being said, perhaps if we want the company to act like we're one of the big four, we as a pilot group should present ourselves like we're one of the big four.

And we don't have to change our hard-work attitude just because we're a bit dressed up.

How about single breasted blazer no tie....


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