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SlipKid 05-10-2016 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by RadarColor (Post 2126341)
The previous vote doesn't matter any longer. It failed and that's that!


Yup..... Until over a third of your brothers try to sell you out again.



It is now up to the NC and SWAPA to decide "WHEN" TA2 is acceptable to put out for a vote. This is negotiation 101.
And for the first time since the last Weaks admin, SWAPA is actually negotiating with the company, instead of "negotiating" (wink).


The Company will try to negotiate with the pilots but JW and his group are smarter than that. Airline labor TA's, when presented the second time around, have over a 90% pass rate regardless of the changes (good, bad or indifferent). That is why it is incumbent on the NC to not put any TA out until they believe it is worthy.
Agreed. I hope the pilot group doesn't screw it up.... Again.....

BOD elections are coming up in a few months. There will be a full court Koolie press to get some BOD seats back on the company side of the table. Mark my words.

All it took last time was a complicit President, 3 reps and the NC to convince over a third of our pilots to vote yes on concessions that we'd be stuck with for at least another decade. They even tried to sneak in PBS under the table.....

SlipKid 05-10-2016 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by RadarColor (Post 2126320)
BULL $hit...!!!!!

Elaborate? What part of my post don't you agree with? :confused:

FLY6584 05-10-2016 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by RadarColor (Post 2126395)
Wearing flip flops and living in So-Cal how foreign that must be. Oh yeah, with no humidity or bugs the size of Rhode Island

Too bad the fishing and diving sucks though. Anyways enough of my state is better than your state.

To the OP, a Delta friend of mine put me in touch with a guy he knew who spent about 8 months at Southwest before going to Delta. He loved Delta and was so happy he made the decision. Faster seniority = better quality of life for him. However, by the end of the conversation I asked him if he planned on staying in FL and he said no way, he was moving to Atlanta or Detroit.

As I mentioned before if it were me and I lived within driving distance of a Delta base I'd leave. Sure we probably have more fun at work and better schedule flexibility, but I also think we work more and unfortunately no matter how much you like this job it's still a job... a job that takes you away from your family. So if I could make more at Delta and be away from my family less then that's a no brainer in my opinion.

Sputnik 05-10-2016 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by SlipKid (Post 2126292)

They are STILL out there. Need proof? Count the flag ties next time you go to work...........

Huh? DAL guy here, what's the significance of the tie?

SlipKid 05-10-2016 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 2126446)
Huh? DAL guy here, what's the significance of the tie?

Our union asked us to wear dark ties with a SWAPA pin on it as a show of unity. This, apparently, is too much to ask of too many of our pilots. :confused:

flyguy81 05-10-2016 02:37 PM

There are guys leaving SWA for DL and vice versa. There's guys leaving DL for UAL, AA.

General rule of thumb is go to the first place that hires you and if that's not where you really want to end up then keep the apps updated for where you'd really like to work.


Then there's some that'll never be happy. Give them a sack of money and they'll complain it's too heavy. Those guys will either make everyone miserable at work or be the ones jumping from airline to airline their whole career.

The job is what you make of it. CBA negotiations aside SWA is a great job and I've got no complaints.

at6d 05-10-2016 06:57 PM

Happy to be at SWA.

There are as many reasons to pick an airline as there are pilots employed by them.

Do what's best for you and your family. If you are single and time at home is negotiable...fly the world!

You can only choose with the information you have today, and you won't know if you made the right choice until the day you retire.

Best of luck!

Thunder1 05-10-2016 08:07 PM

Right now definitely go to Delta; however, that answer could change if there is a major economic event, war, terrorism, etc.
Ask me again when we have a new contract and my answer may change.
Best of luck. :)

Tolpin 05-11-2016 06:09 PM

So how soon could a new hire hold BWI?

FLY6584 05-11-2016 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Tolpin (Post 2127431)
So how soon could a new hire hold BWI?

Depending on where you fall in your class and where your class falls in the order of classes putting their initial bid in its possible to get it right out of training, but no longer than about a 2-3 month wait.


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