Type required
 

Looks like the type is required again to get hired but not interview? Has this changed recently? It's on the careers page for application.

It's not required.


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Oh, ok. Careers page says it is. I must have a link from an old page or something then.

Post your link, pilot credentials doesn't say it's required

Likely carry over from yester-year. The type is not required, and I think Rocky will go so far as to discourage you from getting it if you're considering spending the money.

https://www.southwest.com/html/about...ns/pilots.html

"1 A Candidate may apply without a B-737 Type Rating. If a candidate interviews and successfully completes the entire selection process, he/she has six months from the date to obtain a B-737 Type Rating to be eligible for hire. "

https://www.southwest.com/html/about...ns/pilots.html

So It took so long. Looks like you beat me to it....

Maybe true but they give it to you in 2 months. So yes it is required, but they give it to you

Just hired, no 737 type.

I think it is an old link. Look at the pilot bases listed, no Denver base listed and it has been around for nearly 5 years I believe.

Dude you already work there, what's the deal stiring stuff up?

Guys in my class were asking each other because everyone has people trying to come here. That's all. Not stirring anything up. That's reason I asked a question. ..

I don't doubt its old info. But the link is active on their website. That was what the original question was referencing.

SW recently did a presentation at a job fair and was asked this type rating question. It was then asked back, "how many here have a 737 type rating?", a few hands go up, then "how many have experience flying the 737?", nearly all hands go down. They then went on to say they'd been working to get rid of the emphasis on getting the type. Noted that having a lot of 737 experience makes it hard to fly the SW way, and that its easy to revert to old habits. That most paying for the type get them in sims with different variants and procedures than SW, creating a negative transfer of learning. They worked on adjusting their training curriculum since they removed the type rating for those without it. In short, no isn't needed, and becoming less and less preferred if at all. My personal take is it may say something about your commitment, but outside of that they kinda like to train from a clean slate.

No it's not an old link. The type is going to be required again since new hires with out it are having difficultly getting through the training-their program wasn't designed for people with out the 73 type. Should be interesting to see where they're going to get these applicants.

Where did you get that information, not trying to call you out, but it goes against a lot of info out there, I just need to know if I need to go get the type or not...

Type required
 

False. Completely false.
No type required nor will it be. It is an old link and it does not surprise me that our IT people have left it up.

I figured some one would argue otherwise. This came down directly from the base chief pilot. Perhaps, he's wrong?

Yes. If that info came from a Chief then he is wrong. It doesn't really shock me based on how out of touch most of the guys in the CPO are.
The type is not required now nor will it be. Period. That webpage was dug up and discussed already months ago on the union forum and the TA Facebook page. It is old hence the no Denver crew base. The current website says nothing about the type.
Email Rocky if you want to settle it. He is great about answering questions.

Would anybody be able to PM me Rocky's email address? Do you think he would answer someone who doesn't work for the company?

Thank you for clearing this up. It did strike me as odd especially given today's market.

Yes he will, and you can email him via the pilotcredentials where it gives you a link to ask questions about the application. He answered my questions.

I saw Rocky yesterday. That's who I was and am now quoting/paraphrasing. Dont need the type. The whole "our training is developed around guys having it" argument is now moot. The training has now changed, developed for a new-hire NOT having it. He specifically referenced last training model being deficient for guys without the type, not blaming the guys but the old method of training. They want to train you, have a clean slate. Save your time, money and jeopardy risk.

How many guys have difficulties in training and or don't finish? I can't imigine that it's many and would be a rare event.

I have the type, no time in the 73, but my type was over ten years ago at HPA. I think I remember how to start the APU :rolleyes:

The Chief of training told us that every single one of the 600+ 2016 new hires made it through training. Although there was a dude a few classes ahead of me sent home for some "inaccuracies" in his background check relating to a busted checkride. If my class was any example, a significant majority of those folks did not have a type. The course is now designed around not having one. You get some extra days off if you do have one as folks take their orals.

Union said that last yr 20% of new hires had some form or retraining or extra training. Not a big deal in my opinion some just want a few more hrs of IOE or another sim. They'll get you through if you have a good attitude and are trying.
As far as having previous experience in a 737 before showing up; sure it's a pita to learn the SW way and some of it, ok most of it, has you scratching your head but it's their company and their way. No big deal. Everyone I flew with appreciated my previous experience so it can't hurt

FWIW, from pilot credentials

Q: Am I required to have a B737 Type Rating to be hired at Southwest Airlines?
A: A Boeing 737 Type Rating is no longer required prior to a job offer. Pilot candidates must still have a U.S. FAA unrestricted Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate with an AMEL endorsement to be considered a valid applicant.
Q: I have just obtained a B737 Type Rating, how will Southwest evaluate that achievement?
A: Some candidates may have recently received a B737 Type Rating; we understand their commitment and recognize they may be targeting an opportunity at Southwest Airlines. That commitment will not go unrecognized. Even though the type rating is no longer required, it is still beneficial and will continue to have value in the screening process.