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Ed Force One 07-31-2017 07:22 AM

Don't forget Seattle. Seattle was the next new base before we even flew out of there.

Chimpy 07-31-2017 09:26 AM

Stock continues its decline with news article after news article discussing the labor/management relationship

putzin 07-31-2017 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2402078)
Stock continues its decline with news article after news article discussing the labor/management relationship

Kind of sad it's come to this, but such is life when you're a bunch of greedy bas*ards.

pilotsjs89 07-31-2017 11:51 PM

You guys are completely shooting yourselves in the foot with previous coordinated efforts to sabotage company ops. In fact you are playing right into the hands of mgmt doing exactly what they hoped you would do. Now they can say the pilot group is failing to negotiate in good faith and trying to strong arm mgmt. You lost whatever leverage you had prior over mgmt for a well deserved raise although you will still get one eventually. Stop letting short sighted junior pilots wreck your chances for a great contract.

Chimpy 07-31-2017 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by pilotsjs89 (Post 2402427)
You guys are completely shooting yourselves in the foot with previous coordinated efforts to sabotage company ops. In fact you are playing right into the hands of mgmt doing exactly what they hoped you would do. Now they can say the pilot group is failing to negotiate in good faith and trying to strong arm mgmt. You lost whatever leverage you had prior over mgmt for a well deserved raise although you will still get one eventually. Stop letting short sighted junior pilots wreck your chances for a great contract.

This is completely false. Every single pilot I know has been going above and beyond to help this place succeed.

pilotsjs89 07-31-2017 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2402428)
This is completely false. Every single pilot I know has been going above and beyond to help this place succeed.

I've heard different. Good luck on the new deal and be smart.

putzin 08-01-2017 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2402428)
This is completely false. Every single pilot I know has been going above and beyond to help this place succeed.

Spot on Chimp and no different than any summer in the past.

AllOva736 08-01-2017 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by pilotsjs89 (Post 2402429)
I've heard different. Good luck on the new deal and be smart.

You have heard different huh? Yeah Im sure you're someone who is really in the know on what's happening at Spirit. The pilots as a whole didn't try to coordinate a work stoppage but a few pieces of crap on this site did. The cancellation issues come from being UNDERSTAFFED!

tinman1 08-01-2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2402463)
You have heard different huh? Yeah Im sure you're someone who is really in the know on what's happening at Spirit. The pilots as a whole didn't try to coordinate a work stoppage but a few pieces of crap on this site did. The cancellation issues come from being UNDERSTAFFED!

I credited 91 hours on R8 reserve in FLL for July. I didn't work on any of my days off and even dropped a day for personal reasons. Most days I was one of a handful if not the only morning reserve available. We are not properly staffed.

AllOva736 08-01-2017 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by tinman1 (Post 2402678)
I credited 91 hours on R8 reserve in FLL for July. I didn't work on any of my days off and even dropped a day for personal reasons. Most days I was one of a handful if not the only morning reserve available. We are not properly staffed.

When I was FLL based it was the same way. If you're R8 or R11 it seems they will offer MUP for every trip you do.


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