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02-14-2018, 06:57 PM
#121
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 826
Originally Posted by wt93205
In all seriousness, I have seen MEC's recommend a TA for vote and then regretted by the pilot group for voting it in. So yes. MEC's are not always right in what they think. They can be wrong. I think your MEC is wrong this time. That is why some TA's get voted down, new members get elected, new TA's get negotiated, then passed when the pilot group thinks they have a fair deal. I think this is the best time ever to get a TA, and another year is worth the wait. Take it to a strike again if you have too to get what you want including the additional retro.
02-14-2018, 07:01 PM
#123
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Position: 737 FO
Posts: 880
Originally Posted by SourGrapes
were the profit predictions we were given pre or post corporate tax reform?
I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.
02-14-2018, 07:06 PM
#125
Hold my beer, watch this.
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Airbus Pilot
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by Gjn290
Profit predictions are done as a pre-tax margin, therefore the tax reform doesn’t change anything. If you listen to Q&A’s or attend a roadshow, you would know why the tax reform argument doesn’t work. Spirit basically pays zero cash tax, due to growth and aircraft deliveries.
I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.
I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.
02-14-2018, 07:06 PM
#126
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Position: A320 CA
Posts: 177
Originally Posted by wt93205
In all seriousness, I have seen MEC's recommend a TA for vote and then regretted by the pilot group for voting it in. So yes. MEC's are not always right in what they think. They can be wrong. I think your MEC is wrong this time. That is why some TA's get voted down, new members get elected, new TA's get negotiated, then passed when the pilot group thinks they have a fair deal. To say they know best because they know all the numbers and have been around a long time is foolish. I think this is the best time ever to get a TA, and another year is worth the wait. Take it to a strike again if you have too to get what you want including the additional retro.
02-14-2018, 07:08 PM
#127
Hold my beer, watch this.
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Airbus Pilot
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Boy when you guys get a TA in 2020 over at frontier you will be in for a real shocker.
02-14-2018, 07:09 PM
#128
Hold my beer, watch this.
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Airbus Pilot
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by Tjamaica
All sounds great but how do you know it will go down like that? Take it to a strike? Seriously, are you even on this planet right now? It is not that easy but you already knew that...
Congrats Spirit Management. You have broken the spirit! Ha!
02-14-2018, 07:14 PM
#129
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 532
Originally Posted by Gjn290
Profit predictions are done as a pre-tax margin, therefore the tax reform doesn’t change anything. If you listen to Q&A’s or attend a roadshow, you would know why the tax reform argument doesn’t work. Spirit basically pays zero cash tax, due to growth and aircraft deliveries.
I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.
I know it’s hard, but try and listen to the experts.
Last edited by SourGrapes; 02-14-2018 at 07:44 PM.
02-14-2018, 07:15 PM
#130
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Position: NK CA
Posts: 826
Originally Posted by wt93205
You are mistaken son! I won't be that shocked we are getting paid more then Spirit in 2020! No PBS either! Whoo hooo!
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