Health insurance for new hires
02-14-2018, 01:22 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Except Hawaiian and UPS everyone has been making it right. This isn’t entry level. Guys coming to Spirit should be done paying dues
02-14-2018, 01:58 PM
#22
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Health insurance for new hires
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
The reason you’re making that money is because those before you chose to pull the ladder up behind them. Now you are advocating the same behavior. Why should good pilots have to walk a mile in my shoes? My shoes are garbage, I wouldn’t want anyone to walk in them if I could prevent it.
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THIS! I see so much of it the pulling up of the ladder, and it annoys me, esp when it is done by people who have been in the industry only a few years and expect something. I’ve been furloughed, by “backflows” after 9/11 then had the flow taken away altogether and I still won’t pull the ladder up behind me, there's no reason not to watch out for junior folks.
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02-14-2018, 02:41 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
Originally Posted by Dukeuno
The problem is Spirit management has a regional mentality. I think they want to run Spirit like a Regional, get as many pilots to come over at the lower rate. Then when the pool of new hires runs dry they will offer some type of bonus or an LOA to get new hire classes filled.
You don't have to like it, but it is the truth. You've got to look out for number one because these companies don't give a rat's arse about you.
02-14-2018, 05:03 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Apr 2005
Posts: 202
Originally Posted by tinman1
Glad someone else gets it. I'm not saying I want pull up the proverbial ladder, but I sure as hell don't want to be making less than the pilots under me on the seniority list. And yes that does happen. It is simple supply and demand economics. This place is a glorified regional, and when the classes start drying up the money will come out.
You don't have to like it, but it is the truth. You've got to look out for number one because these companies don't give a rat's arse about you.
You don't have to like it, but it is the truth. You've got to look out for number one because these companies don't give a rat's arse about you.
02-14-2018, 07:05 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 880
Don’t act like new hires got totally passed over. They finish training with an accumalted sick bank and will earn more upon completion of training than anyone prior, and they can take a personal medical leave after 90 days instead of 12 months.
If that’s not enough to attract, let the company come back to the table.
If that’s not enough to attract, let the company come back to the table.
02-15-2018, 05:07 AM
#26
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Posts: 193
Originally Posted by BeechedJet
I gotta say the nicest thing about training pay was going to my landlord and paying him with my sick bank. I remember shaking hands with the manager of a McDonald's because he was so happy I spent sick bank money at her store.
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