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LloydBraun 02-15-2018 12:15 PM

Did a little math
 
Line for March on year 2 pay and current rigs pays $5500

Same Line for march with TA pay scale and rigs pays $9100.

Credit went from 75 to over 87.

Dukeuno 02-15-2018 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2529283)
Line for March on year 2 pay and current rigs pays $5500

Same Line for march with TA pay scale and rigs pays $9100.

Credit went from 75 to over 87.

You do know the new rigs don’t take affect till PBS is implemented. So we keep the current rigs till then.

putzin 02-15-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2529308)
You do know the new rigs don’t take affect till PBS is implemented. So we keep the current rigs till then.

Are you sure?

otter1 02-15-2018 01:03 PM

I figured it out earlier and including the DC, a six year captain at 72 hours would be making over $5100/month more. A 2nd year F/O would be making almost $2700/month more.

If we turn this down, does anyone think we would make up those losses?

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2529308)
You do know the new rigs don’t take affect till PBS is implemented. So we keep the current rigs till then.

Hilarious!!!!! don't confuse LLOYD with facts-----sad

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2529312)
Are you sure?

yes, read the TA "info" website quick facts

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by otter1 (Post 2529313)
I figured it out earlier and including the DC, a six year captain at 72 hours would be making over $5000/month more. A 2nd year F/O would be making over $2700/month more.

If we turn this down, does anyone think we would make up those losses?

---------------yes

LloydBraun 02-15-2018 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2529308)
You do know the new rigs don’t take affect till PBS is implemented. So we keep the current rigs till then.

Yeah I wasn’t doing it thinking that is what I would make next month. Just a comparison of what lines might pay after PBS.

putzin 02-15-2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529328)
---------------yes

What's yer plan? We're ready!

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2529329)
Yeah I wasn’t doing it thinking that is what I would make next month. Just a comparison of what lines might pay after PBS.

shhhhhh, the company might find out about all that extra money u gonna make with the new rigs and adjust their schedules accordingly-----you're ruining it for everybody

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2529333)
What's yer plan? We're ready!

sorry, i don't negotiate in public

LloydBraun 02-15-2018 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529319)
Hilarious!!!!! don't confuse LLOYD with facts-----sad

Jesus dude. You really are an A$$. Was just doing a comparison of what lines now might pay after PBS.

putzin 02-15-2018 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529336)
sorry, i don't negotiate in public

Haha! You haven't done anything since 2010, when they apparently 'boned' you the first time.

Zero cred brother.

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2529283)
Line for March on year 2 pay and current rigs pays $5500

Same Line for march with TA pay scale and rigs pays $9100.

Credit went from 75 to over 87.

here's a little math for you, how many hours did you block last year vs how many hours you got paid? was it 1 to 1? if yes, then your getting a decent hourly raise. was it something different like most of us, then your raise is going to offset with elimination of soft time with pbs, resched and loss of transition. do some math and see what your 'effective' hourly rate was last year

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2529339)
Haha! You haven't done anything since 2010, when they apparently 'boned' you the first time.

Zero cred brother.

https://i.imgur.com/ycEcR2I.jpg

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2529337)
Jesus dude. You really are an A$$. Was just doing a comparison of what lines now might pay after PBS.

i'm an ass, you're the one who thinks the pairings won't be adjusted to the new rigs......jeezus, am i missing something??

putzin 02-15-2018 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529343)
here's a little math for you, how many hours did you block last year vs how many hours you got paid? was it 1 to 1? if yes, then your getting a decent hourly raise. was it something different like most of us, then your raise is going to offset with elimination of soft time with pbs, resched and loss of transition. do some math and see what your 'effective' hourly rate was last year

Myopic argument. It doesn't matter how long we delay, we'll keep making less, have no scope (still lacking), no LTD, no retirement.

Glad it worked out for you, doesn't work for the other 90% therefore they won't stand behind you.

Again, you haven't done crap to change in it 8 years. You run your mouth, but that doesn't change contracts.

putzin 02-15-2018 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529352)

At least you contribute cute cartoons. You should run over and cheer up mco, she sad. :(:(

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2529357)
Myopic argument. It doesn't matter how long we delay, we'll keep making less, have no scope (still lacking), no LTD, no retirement.

Glad it worked out for you, doesn't work for the other 90% therefore they won't stand behind you.

Again, you haven't done crap to change in it 8 years. You run your mouth, but that doesn't change contracts.

well said putz

putzin 02-15-2018 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529361)
well said putz

Lol.. good argument:p

LloydBraun 02-15-2018 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529354)
i'm an ass, you're the one who thinks the pairings won't be adjusted to the new rigs......jeezus, am i missing something??

I just made a simple post and you start insulting. I’m over it.

So what do you think will happen to the pairings. And you don’t have to get all ****ty in your answer. How about just a discussion.

If I can get my credit in fewer days I like that. If they stay like this I get paid more. I like that too. I’m guessing the whole idea of PBS is to reduce crews and/or increase efficiency. If they make a bunch of crappy inefficient lines does that not defeat the purpose of PBS.

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2529371)
I just made a simple post and you start insulting. I’m over it.

So what do you think will happen to the pairings. And you don’t have to get all ****ty in your answer. How about just a discussion.

If I can get my credit in fewer days I like that. If they stay like this I get paid more. I like that too. I’m guessing the whole idea of PBS is to reduce crews and/or increase efficiency. If they make a bunch of crappy inefficient lines does that not defeat the purpose of PBS.

i started insulting? you called me an a$$...i'm just defending your attacks against me haus.....also, your 'simple post' is highly misleading. tempers are heating up!!!!

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 01:48 PM

hey here's some little math!!!!! $59,000 profit sharing check!!!!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#5fe534453fea

LloydBraun 02-15-2018 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529319)
Hilarious!!!!! don't confuse LLOYD with facts-----sad

So this wasn’t a insult. Guess I misunderstood the compliment.

illtake2 02-15-2018 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529378)
hey here's some little math!!!!! $59,000 profit sharing check!!!!



https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#5fe534453fea



You are an ass, you have zero credibility. All you do is create animosity, never constructive criticism. Nothing you say is ever constructive or helpful. You are the guy who wins the lottery then complains how much Uncle Sam takes. I am probably giving you attention which you desperately seek, so let me help you out....Sour Grapes is mad everyone you hear that!!! It’s amazing how the guys who caused the reserve drops to go away are the ones who are shocked they aren’t there anymore.


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dotslash 02-15-2018 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2529312)
Are you sure?

You should go to roadshow and get reeducation. Ask questions.

Beans 02-15-2018 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529378)
hey here's some little math!!!!! $59,000 profit sharing check!!!!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#5fe534453fea

Oh thats just peanuts 🥜 sourgrapes. Lets take this huge raise and not worry about what others make. What a joke still a bunch of “heavily discounted pilots”.

dotslash 02-15-2018 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2529337)
Jesus dude. You really are an A$$. Was just doing a comparison of what lines now might pay after PBS.

You forget part about leprechaun delivering line on back of unicorn with rainbow coming out of backside. This is sure thing as pairings not changed. Beside, optimizer make pairings, pbs assign pairing. You should go to roadshow and ask questions, get educated.

dotslash 02-15-2018 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by illtake2 (Post 2529386)
You are an ass, you have zero credibility. All you do is create animosity, never constructive criticism. Nothing you say is ever constructive or helpful. You are the guy who wins the lottery then complains how much Uncle Sam takes. I am probably giving you attention which you desperately seek, so let me help you out....Sour Grapes is mad everyone you hear that!!! It’s amazing how the guys who caused the reserve drops to go away are the ones who are shocked they aren’t there anymore.


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And you are special!!!

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SourGrapes 02-15-2018 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by illtake2 (Post 2529386)
You are an ass, you have zero credibility. All you do is create animosity, never constructive criticism. Nothing you say is ever constructive or helpful. You are the guy who wins the lottery then complains how much Uncle Sam takes. I am probably giving you attention which you desperately seek, so let me help you out....Sour Grapes is mad everyone you hear that!!! It’s amazing how the guys who caused the reserve drops to go away are the ones who are shocked they aren’t there anymore.


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SourGrapes 02-15-2018 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2529381)
So this wasn’t a insult. Guess I misunderstood the compliment.

no, i was calling you out for spreading misleading information

LloydBraun 02-15-2018 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529527)
no, i was calling you out for spreading misleading information

I guess I don’t understand what’s misleading. Math is math.

putzin 02-15-2018 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by dotslash (Post 2529491)
You should go to roadshow and get reeducation. Ask questions.

Is this sarcasm?

Timeismoney 02-15-2018 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2529378)
hey here's some little math!!!!! $59,000 profit sharing check!!!!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#5fe534453fea

They are hiring. Move along now

Timeismoney 02-15-2018 05:37 PM

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QUOTE=illtake2;2529386]You are an ass, you have zero credibility. All you do is create animosity, never constructive criticism. Nothing you say is ever constructive or helpful. You are the guy who wins the lottery then complains how much Uncle Sam takes. I am probably giving you attention which you desperately seek, so let me help you out....Sour Grapes is mad everyone you hear that!!! It’s amazing how the guys who caused the reserve drops to go away are the ones who are shocked they aren’t there anymore.


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Good post.

Sour grapes this is for you

Exactly. The deals are coming to an end the playing field is being leveled. The math is correct. Apples to apples. You enjoyed the 30% raise over the rest of us so now it’s time quite *****ing or get out. Please, a$$

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Timeismoney (Post 2529581)
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QUOTE=illtake2;2529386]You are an ass, you have zero credibility. All you do is create animosity, never constructive criticism. Nothing you say is ever constructive or helpful. You are the guy who wins the lottery then complains how much Uncle Sam takes. I am probably giving you attention which you desperately seek, so let me help you out....Sour Grapes is mad everyone you hear that!!! It’s amazing how the guys who caused the reserve drops to go away are the ones who are shocked they aren’t there anymore.


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Good post.

Sour grapes this is for you

Exactly. The deals are coming to an end the playing field is being leveled. The math is correct. Apples to apples. You enjoyed the 30% raise over the rest of us so now it’s time quite *****ing or get out. Please, a$$[/QUOTE]

huh, i see a line that pays over 91 hours now that will only pay 87 with the new rigs....bummer

SourGrapes 02-15-2018 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Timeismoney (Post 2529581)
[


QUOTE=illtake2;2529386]You are an ass, you have zero credibility. All you do is create animosity, never constructive criticism. Nothing you say is ever constructive or helpful. You are the guy who wins the lottery then complains how much Uncle Sam takes. I am probably giving you attention which you desperately seek, so let me help you out....Sour Grapes is mad everyone you hear that!!! It’s amazing how the guys who caused the reserve drops to go away are the ones who are shocked they aren’t there anymore.


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Good post.

Sour grapes this is for you

Exactly. The deals are coming to an end the playing field is being leveled. The math is correct. Apples to apples. You enjoyed the 30% raise over the rest of us so now it’s time quite *****ing or get out. Please, a$$[/QUOTE]

HA! 'PLAYING FIELD IS LEVELED'----HEARD THAT A LOT LAST TA!!!! CLASSIC. IF YOU MEAN THE PLAYING FIELD IS BEING LEVELED BECAUSE WE ARE GIVING AWAY SO MANY OF OUR CONTRACTUAL GAINS, THEN YES, YOU ARE CORRECT


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