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Old 02-28-2018, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wt93205 View Post
Such professionalism at Spirit.
And you’re previous post was professional? Why don’t you worry about how far off your companies offer is from our new CBA. I hope you do better than us, but I doubt you will.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:25 AM
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When will "Date of signing" be? Is that today, or do the NC and company have to wrap up final paperwork to "sign"?
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:27 AM
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And you’re previous post was professional? Why don’t you worry about how far off your companies offer is from our new CBA. I hope you do better than us, but I doubt you will.
I hope they do much better and when the merger is announced we can start negotiating out JCBA next year from whoever is higher and has the best scope
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by flensr View Post
When will "Date of signing" be? Is that today, or do the NC and company have to wrap up final paperwork to "sign"?
The email from Bob from today leads me to believe DOS will be tomorrow (3/1). Then comes the implementation schedule. No idea how long that'll take.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
I hope they do much better and when the merger is announced we can start negotiating out JCBA next year from whoever is higher and has the best scope
Absolutely.

Congrats to those of you who wanted it pass and sorry for those of you that wished for it to fail. Either way, it is done. Time to learn the new contract in and out, educate your fellow pilots, and ready the grievance forms. I expect nothing less from a scumbag ULCC management group. I hope the Easter eggs you find in the contract are gifts for the pilots and not for the company.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:00 AM
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March 1st everyone, pay a little more attention.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:32 AM
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Your issues have now become the problem of the industry. Sellouts, yes. Weak? Yes. Bringing the industry down? Absolutely. That’s the problem is that you yes-voters feel like you’re in an isolated bubble, but bringing the entire industry down is inexcusable.
The pay is brought up dramatically. That isn't bringing the industry down. It is raising the industry average pay which is a good thing.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetalc View Post
Your issues have now become the problem of the industry. Sellouts, yes. Weak? Yes. Bringing the industry down? Absolutely. That’s the problem is that you yes-voters feel like you’re in an isolated bubble, but bringing the entire industry down is inexcusable.
By that logic, no contract should ever be approved unless it's the new best in the industry, regardless of the airline.

I don't think that's how it works in the real world. In the real world, 50% of everything is "below average". That bottom 50% doesn't need to get crapped on by people trying to piggyback on everyone else's successes while criticizing everyone else who doesn't measure up to whatever imagined standard you're using at any particular moment. The bottom 50% knows they're in the bottom 50%, and most of them are working to improve their lot in life without stepping on others. It's hard enough without having to climb up against a river of poop flowing downhill from uphill critics, let alone climb up dragging along everyone trying to hitch a free ride on the backs of anyone who gets any sort of improvement, and then complaining when the improvements other people achieve are somehow not good enough.

Quit your whining and poo flinging, or I'll be forced to throw more bad analogies in your general direction.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:46 AM
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Funny how messed up someone’s brain must be to think that increasing my pay by 50%+ (among other increases) is bringing the industry down instead of up.

I guess simple math is hard for some people?
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetalc View Post
Your issues have now become the problem of the industry. Sellouts, yes. Weak? Yes. Bringing the industry down? Absolutely. That’s the problem is that you yes-voters feel like you’re in an isolated bubble, but bringing the entire industry down is inexcusable.
What has Frontier pilots done to bring up the industry?
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