LCR and SCR Rules
 

Just confirming Spirits LCR is 14 hours and SCR 3 hours?

There is about to be a metric s#1t ton of "buyers remorse" in these work rules......
SCR is 3 hrs call to push, not show.
I was called maybe twice in a year of total reserve to be there quick. Most of the time I saw something posted to my schedule a day or so in advance.

It has always been 3 hours to push.

Yeah, but how about that Section 1....scope! Love it!

Do you actually work here? Because if you did you would realize you didn't make a single point there.

Having fun with your screen name yet?

This ready to depart language has been clarified before by the union and precedent has been set that it’s not ready to push. Scheduling also themselves uses 3hrs as show time. They may ask if you can make it sooner but if you say you need your 3hrs they understand that to be showing in 3hrs. Scheduling is not confused it only seems to be the pilots. Any time I’ve said I need my three hours we always pushed well after 3hrs and I’ve never heard a word about it.

The language is poor no doubt but only new hires and guys new to rsv think they have to be ready to push 3hrs from the call.

You hear that new guys? When you tell scheduling your interpretation of the contract and 3 hour call out, you can site amateur scope expert, and all around contract genius, Qotsaautopilot.

Never mind the fact that our SPA ALPA newhire guide, for newhires, describes the call out to be “3 hours ready to depart” and that’s the same language in the contract, 3 hours ready to depart.

So listen to Qotsa....his post will hold up in any probation NOI hearing against you.

The fight is over my friend. Everyone now is just trying to learn. If all you are going to do is be a smart a$$ and try and prove how smart you are, get lost.

So instead of posting a DB post, why not take the high road? Reference and post the section talking about the 3 hour language and....Be a better man

This is what I found in the new hire handbook for Spirit ALPA

Reserve Duty Obligations
When Scheduling notifies you of a trip assign
-
ment, you are allocated three hours to be at the
aircraft ready to depart. You have 15 minutes from
when Crew Scheduling calls you to return the call
and accept the assignment
. The time you accept
the assignment is when notification occurs, not at
the time Crew Scheduling initially calls
.

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I did. I referenced the quote from the newhire handbook and the contract.

Kind of, but not really. Look up and see what Duke did. That's what I was talking about. Look, I don't care about your spat with another member-but it does get old.

I guess the point is what does ready to depart mean. It doesn’t mean ready to push and the union volunteers can verify that for you. It’s ooor language that should’ve been clarified in the CBA 2018 but it wasn’t so precedent is what we use. You are not required to be on the plane ready to push in 3hrs

It does say 3hrs at the aircraft ready to depart. So you can’t be walking through security at 3hrs, you have to be at the aircraft.

Anyone have any more clarification on this? I live about 2.5 hours drive from a base. With the 15 minute call back I could easily be at the airport but probably not ready to push.

Yup, you have to be at the aircraft ready to depart (but not the aircraft). If both of us are called out of reserve, we can both show at the gate ready to depart 3 hours later. We have 45 minutes to get the aircraft ready to depart (under old contract this was 30 minutes, but current contract specifies a 45 minute show time AT the aircraft).

IANAL, and until someone can post a completed grievance showing what the 3 hours means all of this is a waste of time.

Was curious about this as well as an applicant with the same questions. Is short call 3 hours to show after an assignment? Tried to use the search function! Thank you!

3 hours to PUSH after crew scheduling calls you. Subtract however long it takes YOU to get your job done to prep the plane for push and you have your "commute" time.

Here we go again. Make your best attempt and that's all you can do. Traffic, WX, road construction, Airport parking and other thing are out of your control. I can say 100% as long as you get there in a reasonable amount of time no one is going to say anything. You get in a wreck because Spirit says your fired if you don't push in 3 hrs Spirit will have hell to pay. The contract says ready to go, not PUSH. That was done with a purpose. Clearly not a mistake or overlooked.

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Was this actually ever arbitrated?

Thanks you! End of story! You're 100% correct!! In side the 3hrs I've always got move up pay too. Actually the folks in crew scheduling do a great job and are cool when you tell them you need time! :cool:

I still agree with this in practice but I think ALPA recently gave a clarification contrary to what I had posted. They basically said if everything else is in order you should be ready to depart in 3hrs. You are not responsible for everything else if you don’t push at three hours but if the guy is on the tug and the folks are boarded and you have a clean logbook we shouldn’t be waiting on you. I don’t agree with this and I don’t know if that’s official but I think it was recently in an email.

LCR and SCR Rules
 

That was how I interpreted the email, as well.