Qotsaautopilot

I don’t know for sure so I’m asking.

We have some great new pilots from Avianca. Great to fly with and have a lot of experience in the plane.

If some of you don’t read your ALPA mail, the avainaca pilots participated in a strike at the end of last year that is now over. And after the fact the company has been systematically firing pilots. It’s over 100 now.

The company has shot thenselves in the foot and now has 787s sitting idle because they fired the pilots so Boeing has agreed to send 12 pilots down to fly them. Hasn’t happened yet though.

Unrelated to Boeing I heard that a Scabing pilot from during the strike has been recently hired here at Spirit. Anyone know?

Alphafloor

All the money and hot brunettes in the world wouldn’t be enough to risk getting your throat slit. I have a feeling Boeing is gonna have a hard time coming up with “el doce”.

SonicFlyer

Why should anyone care?

Groupthink mentality is the lowest end of humanity. It is none of your business what your fellow employee's work history is, as long as they are competent at their job.

symbian simian

Guess we found him.....

NK Bumble Bee

That's a pretty narrow thought process because it goes so far beyond the personal work history of the person who has demonstrated that they are willing to cross a picket line. Self-help is the only nuclear option that pilot groups have under the Railway Labor Act, and the ability to get released for a legal strike is a coveted tool that all but guarantees a prompt resolution. Any pilot with a history of crossing a picket line to work should be a concern to any pilot group.

Qotsaautopilot

Like it or not we are a unionized group that collectively bargains. People with a history of scabing undermine unity and our ability to negotiate better pay and working conditions. We currently have zero control over who Spirit hires but we should know if they are scabs and our leadership should at least encourage Spirit not to hire those types going forward.

MO4SHO

The illegal strike at Avianca?

I’m not sure if it counts as a legal job action if it was declared illegal.

Alphafloor

Why should anybody care? Is that a serious statement? News flash pal,.. WE DO CARE! Simply put anybody that would cross a picket line whether legal or not cannot be trusted and doesn’t need to be working at a union shop,.. period! We would have a much stronger pilot group if we could hire every single one of the Avianca pilots that have been fired and not some worthless turd that flew struck work.

aiir

I’m sure the waters down there are pretty muddy when it comes to figuring out the legalities of striking. The point is that the group of pilots at Avianca found themselves underpaid in comparison to their counterparts in nearby South American countries. They tried to rectify that by collective bargaining which eventually led to a strike. Now Avianca is firing the main pilots who were involved in this collective bargaining thereby intimidating any other Avianca pilot from ever engaging in this type of behavior and effectively keeping their wages and benefits down by intimidation.

I don’t think that’s okay and we should stand with the pilots of Colombia and likewise the pilots of the world who are for better wages and compensation since what happens in one side of the world eventually does translate over. Well paid pilots all over the world means well paid or even better paid pilots in the US. The opposite also may hold true. If eventually every pilot in the world is paid peanuts, we may fall down that slippery slope.

PowderFinger

Oh dear God.

Please protect us from the mentality that drags us all down.