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Old 05-14-2018, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
If a senior captain got 75k, what did a first year FO get? I'm just curious as there seems to be an endless number of different ways you could divide up the money
Anywhere from $1K-$10K.
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Old 05-14-2018, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
If a senior captain got 75k, what did a first year FO get? I'm just curious as there seems to be an endless number of different ways you could divide up the money
1.5 years was about 13k
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Old 05-14-2018, 11:59 AM
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Not according to Capt I flew with last month. He said since I was only here a year that I didn’t deserve any money. Took away from him and why he only got 75K. Exact words. Well alrighty then.
What a tool ... he must have been to fly with.
It's bad enough to think that, rather unacceptable to actually say it to your fellow pilot.
Management loves these types...
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:15 AM
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What a tool ... he must have been to fly with.
It's bad enough to think that, rather unacceptable to actually say it to your fellow pilot.
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Why is this exactly? The company owed all of us the new rates from August 2015. If a guy was only here at the end why should he get an equal share of guys walking the (info) picket line etc for the entire time?
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Old 05-15-2018, 04:02 AM
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Why is this exactly? The company owed all of us the new rates from August 2015. If a guy was only here at the end why should he get an equal share of guys walking the (info) picket line etc for the entire time?
Where did he say equal? Oh that's right, he didn't. He said the guy was a tool because he believed the FO didn't deserve a single dollar if it took away from his own pocket. It's the ******* everyone else as long as I get mine mentality
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:12 AM
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At first I thought he was joking but the look on his face I figured out pretty quick he was serious. Whatever. I know it wasn’t the number everyone wanted but after a year of $38/hr and albeit a small part of the whole process the Spirit pilots went through I don’t feel as though I screwed someone. The thing that bothered me was he was kind of nasty about it.
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:08 AM
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At first I thought he was joking but the look on his face I figured out pretty quick he was serious. Whatever. I know it wasn’t the number everyone wanted but after a year of $38/hr and albeit a small part of the whole process the Spirit pilots went through I don’t feel as though I screwed someone. The thing that bothered me was he was kind of nasty about it.
The world is chock full of selfish a holes. A few of them even work here. Not many, thankfully.
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:17 AM
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Why is this exactly? The company owed all of us the new rates from August 2015. If a guy was only here at the end why should he get an equal share of guys walking the (info) picket line etc for the entire time?
The bonus was literally based on how many months you had been on the property since August 2015. Also looked at how many of those you were captain. The first year FO talking was okay with that but the captain (who based on the amount he got was captain in August 2015) felt the fo should have gotten nothing. I think the fo was right.

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Old 05-17-2018, 12:10 AM
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Where did he say equal? Oh that's right, he didn't. He said the guy was a tool because he believed the FO didn't deserve a single dollar if it took away from his own pocket.
It's the ******* everyone else as long as I get mine mentality
In bold is management's wet dream, to divide the group and weaken our union.
I have an issue with that, and...
In recent times seeing the slow demise of worker's rights disguised as "right to work" states.
While employers receive "corporate welfare" and blame unions for their greedy decisions, which are the real cause of their financial demise.
Exactly what Spirit management pulled with by the TRO and by suing our union a year ago. This was influential in the passing of this substandard CBA.
Problem is, the uneducated ignorant public "eats" all that.
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It's the ******* everyone else as long as I get mine mentality


Yep and thats why the TA passed, everyone who voted for it screwed new hires (pay and ins waiting period) and screwed everyone on reserve since they basically can’t drop anymore. It’s the way of pilots it seems....


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