PBS Language in the TA?
 

Frontier guy here.

Our negotiating committee has reached an AIP with Frontier and it includes switching to a PBS system from our current line bidding.

Question: at the time you guys voted on your TA, what scheduling rules and policies did you have? Was everything written already, or was scheduling language written afterwards.

We are concerned that we will be voting without a full understanding of future scheduling. Curious how it was presented to you.

Thanks

There was an LOA that kind of laid out the foundation of how it would work moving forward. Some of our new rigs and stuff don’t go into effect until PBS is implemented, all the work rules will need to be preserved, how vacation would work, the Joint PBS Working Group would be formed to implement it. Pilots got to chose the vendor, etc...


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As explained to us with road shows and calls:

Delaying a contract vote until all the language of the PBS is written is exactly what the company wants. All other sections are “AIP” and you spend the next year at your wages, while the company slow plays PBS and saves millions a month, all the while fully negotiating in good faith.

ALPA doesn’t want this. Instead they draft expedited arbitration language rules to go with a PBS LOA in the TA. The company won’t be able to “wag the dog”.

I’ve read some of the Frontier threads on the TA, and man, it looks to be as similar to our “discussions” at the same time.

I’m sure this will be explained to everyone during the upcoming road shows and conference calls. Granted some will refuse to agree to this, but it was explained well and I felt it was the right path

Pilots didn't choose the vendor. The JPWG did, and it is 50% company

Come on, the pilots did choose the vendor. The Association is the pilots. You think they should put to a vote to this pilot group on what vendor we should have? We have representatives of the pilot group to make those informed decisions, based on information.


LOA states that the vendor decision will be decided by the JPWG. BUT.....

“Should the JPWG fail to reach mutual agreement within fifteen days of the conclu-sion of the interviews, the Association will make the final vendor selection from the three interviewed vendors”.

Fortunately the agreed on NavBlue. Had they didn’t, the union has final choice. We didn’t need the company to agree on any choice we made, we had final veto and decision power.

If I ask my wife what she wants for dinner, I can agree and we eat that or I say “I want something else” and we will still have what she wants. She is the Association, I’m the company. She makes the decision what I’m eating in the end. I love my wife.

Let's be intellectually honest. You love your wife AND not having to make dinner.:rolleyes:

Haha...valid point.