No R11
 

Have they ran no R11 in the past? R11 was the only saving grace for reserve life. Especially come PBS.

I'm not sure about R11 but R19 got switch to R18. Based on the trips out of LAS it's so the R18 can now cover the BOS, TPA and MCO red eyes (based on the report/departure time).

Being in my base I wasn’t thinking of the overnight shifts. The only relief from the 12 days off was R11 here. As well as added day off lines for other bases. Was nice to hbe thise options for commuting. (Which I know “is your own choice” blah blah)

R13 was my favorite till they got smart and made it R11.... Looks like they got smart again.

That's going to bite them in the butt when someone calls in sick for the 20:00-21:00 departures from DTW to LAX and LAS. The only way to cover that if someone calls in sick that day is to use an X or Y list pilot.

I suppose that's worth the money in order to get us to work 3-4 more day per month.

What base are you in that doesn’t think of overnight shifts? ACY? Well for the rest of us, flying in the middle of the night is pretty typical.

DTW based. Not afraid of red eyes, I frequent those trips at my seniority. I would prefer that (R19) to only having 12 days off and commuting. Just frustrated and wanted to hear people's thoughts.

Yeah commuting to RSV is a real turd. You either fly crap trips or spend lots of your own money to sit around and do nothing. I’m guessing now it’s the latter.

5 duty period weeks just became 6. Wtf! To hold R11 you sometimes had to be well into lineholder seniority especially in a holdiday month. It was the main rap that lineholders would bid back for. Seriously wtf! No float vacation, no r11, no profit sharing!

No R11
 

It’s almost like 70% of the pilots voted for this.....


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It's almost like 30% of the pilot group bothered to read the whole TA before they voted.
Oh wait, ~30% of the group is also on reserve....

"But, but, but... What about the gains, man!?!"

I didn't know R11 was contractual before. Shoulda voted no. Darn.

best joke in the thread.

Ha,ha. Their point was that evidently R11 was the only silver lining to reserve life after drops were voted out by you guys.

Nice quip, but don't be obtuse, Dick. Of course R11 has never been contractual. But a lot of other aspects of reserve were, now they are gone, and a change like no more R11 has a really big impact on ~30% of us. Maybe it sounds like whining to someone who it doesn't affect right at present. But things can and do change, and what seemed like a vote in one's own self-interest in one contract cycle might be different in the next.
With PBS coming online, the process of our reserve rules going from amazing, to mediocre, to kinda terrible, is about to be complete. Some of us are contemplating this as our new reality. R11 going bye-bye is an additional blow. It's worth noting.

It sure is a big kick in the ballsack. especially since we don't have the industry standard of deferring notification for the first day of the block (to allow you to commute in let's say by 10am on an R8 block)

It doesn’t matter to most until everyone that was bidding R11 starts bidding lines with their seniority and taking the trips you could’ve had if they kept bidding rsv

BINGO! We have a winner.

Yup, since R11 in DTW typically went Lineholder senior, a lot of us just got effectively knocked back 10-15 numbers.

It's not contractual, it's just the company getting smart.

Nope, it sounds like whining because you insulted 70% of the pilot group over something that had nothing to do with it.