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milmil34 02-27-2019 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 2771555)
Damn, I guess I have competitive numbers. Are you former military?

Thanks and congrats.


Not military, no jobs fair visits, no internal recs. Just applied and got called. Let me know if you have any questions, I’d love to help in any way I can!

yh308 02-27-2019 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 2771652)
I agree. I'm not arrogant enough to think that I'd breeze through training because of my past experience. Hell, I don't have any glass cockpit experience. I know it would be extremely challenging.

My plan is to get some glass training whether it be a sim or actual aircraft before I go anywhere for training.

Basically I was asking if my flight hours would make me competitive in the hiring pool regardless of my currency.

Thanks


You could always apply for the ground instructor gig. They might hire you for that. I'm pretty sure its a guaranteed job as a FO after two years. You're not flying but atleast you have a clear path to a job here. Couldn't be any worse than a regional.

Qotsaautopilot 02-27-2019 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by yh308 (Post 2771665)
You could always apply for the ground instructor gig. They might hire you for that. I'm pretty sure its a guaranteed job as a FO after two years. You're not flying but atleast you have a clear path to a job here. Couldn't be any worse than a regional.

I think that job is designed for guys with 1500hrs to skip the regionals. With his time I doubt he would be at the regionals long. Plus, other airlines would be more interested in him at a regional than a non current ground instructor at Spirit

Macjet 02-27-2019 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 2771290)
ATP with 4700 TT, 1273 SIC B727, 1816 MEL, 2914 PIC.

Haven't flown in a long time, but getting current and plan on logging some time to get proficient again.

Thanks in advance.

I don’t think you have any chance. You’re not current nor proficient and you have no glass experience. I don’t see how a few laps around the pattern in anything you can rent will change your position. Unless you’re female or a minority I’d recommmedn a regional where they can’t say no, get current and profici, and then apply.

yh308 02-27-2019 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2771674)
I think that job is designed for guys with 1500hrs to skip the regionals. With his time I doubt he would be at the regionals long. Plus, other airlines would be more interested in him at a regional than a non current ground instructor at Spirit


True. But if he (for some reason) has his heart set on Spirit, it's a good option. If you live in FLL area it could be a good option. But if any major is good then a regional is a much better route.

Popeye0537 02-27-2019 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by yh308 (Post 2771740)
True. But if he (for some reason) has his heart set on Spirit, it's a good option. If you live in FLL area it could be a good option. But if any major is good then a regional is a much better route.


So let me understand your logic. If he wants to go to AA/United/Delta that he has a better chance of getting there if he was to go fly a CRJ/ERJ vs a A320? Or are you basing this on the guaranteed interview he'd get in 5 years by choosing a wholly owned.?

Qotsaautopilot 02-27-2019 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Popeye0537 (Post 2771802)
So let me understand your logic. If he wants to go to AA/United/Delta that he has a better chance of getting there if he was to go fly a CRJ/ERJ vs a A320? Or are you basing this on the guaranteed interview he'd get in 5 years by choosing a wholly owned.?

You misunderstood. He has more of a chance at other majors if he’s at a regional over being a noncurrent ground instructor at soirit

Flyboy68 03-08-2019 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2771716)
I don’t think you have any chance. You’re not current nor proficient and you have no glass experience. I don’t see how a few laps around the pattern in anything you can rent will change your position. Unless you’re female or a minority I’d recommmedn a regional where they can’t say no, get current and profici, and then apply.

I agree.

My plan as of now is to get on as a Near-Direct Captain at one of the 3 regionals I've spoken to about it and "knock the rust off" before upgrading to CA on a regional jet. After that I should be competitive to be hired by a LCC.

I'm 50 years old, so I think that going to an LCC that I can upgrade to CA at after 5 or so years would net me more earnings versus a major as an FO for many years and a few as a CA until I hit 65.

Thanks to all of you for the advice and suggestions. Cheers.

Super EZ E 03-08-2019 07:11 PM

Problem is we now have a new hire pipeline and it's full! Funny how a new contract on DOS +2 has fixed many issues. Anyone tossing in an App today is going to wait sometime before a call. Fast upgrades are GONE! The training issues here are based on the fact we don't train. We have a very high failure rate but most pass on the 2nd try. The failure issues are based on no training and just checking the box system here. 4 sims and a check ride! Hang on!!! We don't have systems class, go read the broken english Airbus manuals!! Go get a direct entry Captain spot, don't come here!!

Flyboy68 03-08-2019 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2778262)
Problem is we now have a new hire pipeline and it's full!

With who, GoJet? They are one that I'm talking to.

Funny how a new contract on DOS +2 has fixed many issues. Anyone tossing in an App today is going to wait sometime before a call. Fast upgrades are GONE! The training issues here are based on the fact we don't train. We have a very high failure rate but most pass on the 2nd try. The failure issues are based on no training and just checking the box system here. 4 sims and a check ride! Hang on!!! We don't have systems class, go read the broken english Airbus manuals!! Go get a direct entry Captain spot, don't come here!!
That's my plan, then start putting out apps to the LCC's.


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