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This is what I see when I try to list for JS on any SWA flight, No listing, no go. Can everybody try, and if unable, email the union?! (#not-again?)



General Availability Error.
Environment: Production (PRODUCTION) / prod01
Log Date: 2019-03-24 14:46:00,548 (Session: E66B95C30F9741CDB0EA0DB48EBCDDAF)

I am having the same issue, as well as others who work for other airlines. Guessing something is down on their end.

This issues is only SouthWest listing. The Union knows about it about but for some reason are not allowed to do a blast email until tomorrow. They have no idea when this will be fixed.

FWIW:

March 24, 2019


Southwest Airlines MyIdTravel Issues

Your Jumpseat committee has been made aware that MyIDTravel for Southwest Airlines is currently unavailable. There is no other way to list on SWA. We advise you to seek alternate routes while commuting today. This is until further notice. We will notify you when the problem is resolved.



Air Line Pilots Association, International
535 Herndon Parkway, Herndon, VA 20170

Between this and the ongoing issues at the gate with jumpseating, the MEC needs to start looking at denying SWA until they get their act together. It’s getting ridiculous with them.

Ouch, I would hate to be the messenger. But yeah kinda getting ridiculous...

Yeah..... let’s not go down the road of denying SWA pilots. First off it’s not the pilots fault and I’m sure SWA management would go into total shock if their pilots couldn’t ride on us. Second, what goes around comes around if you start denying people.

There are plenty of SWA jumpseaters considering the amount of flying we do in BWI, LAS, and MCO. No, it’s not the pilots’ fault, but it’ll start getting stuff fixed at SWA if there’s pressure from their union. It’s been a continuing problem that obviously hasn’t been fixed so far. So yeah, it’s a drastic step, but one that should be looked at at this point. Aren’t jumpseating agreements supposed to be reciprocal?

Was just passing on what I was told by a rep this morning.

Its not the worst idea I have ever heard, but its the worst idea I have heard today.

So it’s fine that we continue to be denied because of their ongoing BS issues that they refuse to fix?

"They" that refuse to fix it aren't the guys asking to ride your jumpseat. Get a grip!

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I js a lot on swa and besides this issue today haven’t had an issue with the js in months. I can’t believe that some of you are advocating for denying their pilots ride on us, that’s childish.

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What a ridiculous idea to start denying SWA pilots. If you have been here long enough, you would know that we've also had our issues in the past with gate agents denying pilots just because they didn't want to go trough the process. We could have been denied at that time, but they didn't.

The problem with the Internet. Gives voice to everyone and then it is believed that the lone opinion has a basis of truth among the group. Unfortunately, this same phenomenon masquerades as journalism today.

Big picture...
Waging a JS war with SWA has a far far greater potential to hurt the NK pilot group than the WN pilot group.

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Big difference between an isolated incident with a gate agent and a pervasive system wide problem....and if you’ve been here long enough, you know this isn’t a new problem.


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It’s a MyIDTravel problem, 9E had the same issue a few weeks back for several days - instead of advocating to block SWA pilots on your jumpseat. Maybe consider working with them to bring back the ability to list at the gate like they can still do for SWA pilots.

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And if you actually js on swa often you’d know that until this problem today there hasn’t been a problem in months.


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No. Just no.

Jesus Christ, a jumpseat war because myIDTravel sucks? You start pulling that crap and all we’ll be doing is effecting more of our brother aviators being able to get to work. Theirs and especially ours.

Calm your tits.

A 3 page thread in one day and you guys want to start a jumpseat war with SWA!? What on this round earth is the matter with you people!?

Why don't you guys concentrate on something that really affects all our lives, like voting in a contract with no rules written for PBS.

Good Lord. SMDH.

Best post on this entire subject. Well said!!!

Too be fair, it was one guy that suggested that. And 3 pages of everyone else shooting that idea down...

to be faaaaaaiiirrr.

He’s right, though. It was only one weirdo that wanted to go nuclear.

Weirdo? Suck it dude


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Fight! Fight! Fight!

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That was not an isolated incident, but I guess you dont know what I am talking about.

50% of the time the SWA gate agents don't know how to add or remove the Zero when listing you for the JS. LOL :confused: Considering we had a Pilot (MV) make a complete ass of himself at SWA they should be kick us off the jumpseat at SWA. In case you didn't know he also made an ass out of himself at Delta! :eek:

The problem is SWA pilots are weak.. they don't know how to engage their union to engage thier company to fix it.. then they come on APC and tell other pilots to suck it up... this is what is getting old...

I stand by my comment. Denying SWA jumpseaters is a weird and entirely inappropriate escalation.

And easy when you're not a commuter.

Just put pressure on them when they show up for a ride and ask them to please push for a solution.

Reading this stupid thread is 10 minutes of my life I’ll never get back.

You’re out of your mind if you think a reasonable solution is to start denying other pilots a jumpseat because their company is still working out the kinks of their new computer system.


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Correct.. the reasonable solution is for SWA pilots to engage their union to engage their company to fix the issues all while they enjoy ease of access of others' jumpseats.

Absolutely agree. I use swa almost exclusively when I js and have never had an issue with them. I think I have had to have them take out the 0 twice and once they did that no problems. That being said I am extremely polite and thankful to them. I am betting if you walk up to the counter thinking its going to be a fight it will.

I have had a different experience, for over a month I got denied CASS because of system time out, and I am not the only one. Everyone at SWA is very nice and helpful but they do have a long history of IT issues worse than us.

Sorry to hear that, they have never told me that they’ve had a system time out before and that’s why it wouldn’t work (for me it’s always been the 0)


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Clearly you fail to remember when your airline (supposedly DAL) refused to allow jumpseaters, even their own pilots. How’d that DALPA influence work back then? You might need a few more ALPA history lessons my friend.

Thanks, not trying to start a pi**ing match, I have family at SWA. I just got tired of seeing the plane push with an empty cockpit seat. The only info I got was the file size of some of our and United pilots picture file was so big it causes time out with low data speed in CASS.....