Great, informative write up. Thanks for giving the most up to date information for us guys looking to come aboard soon.

DH

You think being current with 2.5+ years domestically on the bus helps...

Exactly. Guy comes on to give some great advice and a nice outline to what to expect, helping guys be more prepared, and the same negative trolls pop up to give him grief.

It doesn’t matter if he has a type, the schedule and what to expect has nothing to do with that. Sure, learning the plane is easier if you’re typed, but the training footprint and what to expect remains the same.

Should we have more of the “they are failing everyone” posts?

Sounds like they’ve relaxed the schedule a bit. The 60hr week one with one day off and a 50hr week two was nonsense. Then only 4 sims. Now they have a real FTD to work with and an additional sim. Much better

I had a "relatively" new hire FO and he said his class had major failure issues so it sounds like nothing has changed.

As of less then a year ago, my class had almost no issues whatsoever. A few who didnt show up prepared were behind no doubt.
Show up prepared (Flows, memory items and limitations down cold), studied a couple hours a day after class. Work with your sim partner and ask each other systems questions, memory items, etc. I never felt behind or unprepared, just fairly busy. If I wasnt prepared, I can see how easy it would be to fall behind.
The 4 sims felt fast (coming from non sidestick AC), but with the 8 or 10 FTD’s you get leading up to that, they get you procedurally ready to go. That systems study guide is your best friend, but dont use just that for the oral. Like others said AOM/COM’s need to be studied too as you need to know proper SOP’s in the FTD/sim for basically everything.
Only one or two in our class had a prior 320 type rating. Majority were RJ captains/LCA/sim instructors just prior to NK. So 121 recent as well. I cant stress being prepared enough, and working with your sim partner. Although we had no failures, it was obvious that the guys who didnt study together and/or didnt show up prepared as instructed, did infact struggle. This seems to be the some of the most common factors I hear about guys who have a checkride or oral bust.

Is the system study guide available online part of the prep material they sent you? Or do we get that when we show up?


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Comprehensive New Hire Training Guide
 

121 training is all about knowing what you need to know and what you can skim through. Know your flows before you show up. During indoc study your memory items and limitations while they’re showing the videos we’ve all seen 100 times and talking about VFR cloud clearances. Spend a couple hours a night with sim partner and study. Study what your instructors tell you and you’ll be fine. Don’t get too wrapped around the axle and burn yourself out.


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Updated training instructions
 

Got new training instructions:




Hello New Spirit Pilots,



Some exciting new changes are coming to Spirit’s Training Program. Outlined in this email is what you should expect for your training experience here at Spirit Airlines.



Prior to arriving for training, all limitations, memory items, and proficiency items should be committed to memory. An assessment will be conducted to establish your level of knowledge on these areas and the flows.
Some aircraft flows are changing effective July 8th.
The follow flows should be reviewed, but not a focus for committing to memory. New flows will be similar to existing flows, but easier to follow.
Preliminary Cockpit Flow
Preflight Flow – Captain and First Officer
Before Start Flow – Captain and First Officer
Before Takeoff Flow – First Officer ONLY
All remaining flows not listed above should be committed to memory as they will remain unchanged.
Emergency Training will occur on the last day of the first week of training. This training requires you to have a bathing suit for a wet ditching simulation.
After the first two weeks of ground school, you will be sent home for one week to have a self-study of systems knowledge.
You have to vacate the hotel room after the first two weeks. A new hotel room will be provided to you upon return from the week of self-study.
Computer Based Training (CBT) courses will be provided through SumTotal. These courses cover the remainder of Basic Indoctrination and provide the foundation for Systems training. They must be completed during the week to prepare for Cockpit Systems Integration (CSI) training.
Your ground instructor will be tracking your progress through the systems CBTs. He will also be available during normal business hours to answer any questions or assist with any issues you may have during this self-study week. THIS IS NOT A WEEK OF VACATION.
AOM Vol. 1 may also aid in your studies.
The recommended order for completing CBTs is:
Autoflight
Electronic Instrument System
APU
Electrical
Fire Protection
GPS ADIRS NAV
Communications
Air Conditioning
Pressurization
Ventilation
Pneumatics & Lighting
Ice and Rain Protection
Fuel, Engines, Hydraulics
Flight Controls I
Flight Controls II
Landing Gear and Brakes
Exterior Preflight
GPWS, RADAR, TCAS
Upon returning, you will start CSI training. The training is very intense and fast-paced so it is critical that you have well-prepared yourself during the week of self-study

Good news for people with families.