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Shenzi105 06-10-2019 02:39 PM

Emerald Coast or Cage Consulting
 
Which one did you use? and why?

thanks, asking for a friend :)

StrykerB21 06-10-2019 02:47 PM

Neither. Just researched the company, walked them through my resume, answered a few scenario based questions and then chit chatted about my hobbies. I used emerald coast a couple years back at a different company and didn't get the job. I think I came across as too scripted. Long story short, just be yourself.

flysooner9 06-10-2019 03:02 PM

I used emerald coast this year, however I don’t think it’s really needed. The interview is very straight forward and relaxed. Also pretty short.

EC is a great service though. Especially if you aren’t confident in your interview skills.

quepaso 06-10-2019 03:57 PM

They want to meet Shenzi105 not Emerald Coast or Cage. Be yourself and be sure to drive home “Why Spirit?”

Shenzi105 06-10-2019 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by quepaso (Post 2834872)
They want to meet Shenzi105 not Emerald Coast or Cage. Be yourself and be sure to drive home “Why Spirit?”

:D:D:D Thanks, I will surely if I get the call.

Skypilotsv1984 06-10-2019 05:24 PM

I listened to Emerald Coast tapes and it had some good info. I took some notes, tried to break down the questions and have some stories ready to go. I also prepared in front of mirror and recorded myself giving some answers. I may not have been up to legacy standards but it gave me some confidence and I definitely felt over prepared. Got the job so I guess it worked.

Poser765 06-11-2019 03:15 AM

for spirit neither is needed, at all, for the interview. I got an application review and that really helped clean up my actual app. Beyond that, Spirit was probably the most straightforward interview I’ve ever done... inside of aviation or out. They honestly just want to know who you are... not if you can determine if you need alternate missed approach procedures if the ILS DME is out of service, or how you’d handle a no win scenario.

Here is the $50 interview prep for NK...

Play the games.
Be social with other interviewees.
Don’t say spirit will be a good stepping stone airline. TO ANYONE!
Nail the “why Spirit” question.

That’s it. I accept vinmo and PayPal.

Super EZ E 06-12-2019 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Poser765 (Post 2835030)
for spirit neither is needed, at all, for the interview. I got an application review and that really helped clean up my actual app. Beyond that, Spirit was probably the most straightforward interview I’ve ever done... inside of aviation or out. They honestly just want to know who you are... not if you can determine if you need alternate missed approach procedures if the ILS DME is out of service, or how you’d handle a no win scenario.

Here is the $50 interview prep for NK...

Play the games.
Be social with other interviewees.
Don’t say spirit will be a good stepping stone airline. TO ANYONE!
Nail the “why Spirit” question.

That’s it. I accept vinmo and PayPal.

Yup! You've just put both those scammer prep Companies out of business!!! PayPal the poster $1:D

Omniscient 06-12-2019 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2835472)
Yup! You've just put both those scammer prep Companies out of business!!! PayPal the poster $1:D

"Scammer prep companies"...seriously?

Regardless of what you feel about their services, they have served many pilot well in achieving a job. Not every airline is "laid back, take your jacket off" like Spirit with their interview process. Emerald Coast will even refund your money if you dont get the job.

They offer a service and it serves many well who choose to seek their services, not everything is a scam.

155mm 06-12-2019 07:59 AM

At a minimum read this book!
 
It was good for me many years ago in its first edition and still valid today. Noticed last edition published 2002. Airline Pilot Interviews: How You Can Succeed in Getting Hired by Irv Jasinski

https://www.amazon.com/Airline-Pilot...y&sr=8-1-fkmr0

lowandslow 06-12-2019 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2835567)
"Scammer prep companies"...seriously?

Regardless of what you feel about their services, they have served many pilot well in achieving a job. Not every airline is "laid back, take your jacket off" like Spirit with their interview process. Emerald Coast will even refund your money if you dont get the job.

They offer a service and it serves many well who choose to seek their services, not everything is a scam.

Agree with all. ECIC is pay once, use forever. I’ve been twice. I personally would rather think I “wasted” money on it than wonder if it would’ve helped.

rickair7777 06-12-2019 08:05 AM

The prep companies are VERY useful for some airline interviews. The great value I got out of it was certain things to avoid at all costs, that I really wasn't aware of. I would probably still recommend them for Big-6 interviews, some of them have specific landmines built into the process. Stuff that doesn't necessarily make sense to me, but somebody in charge decided it was relevant.

Qotsaautopilot 06-12-2019 09:38 AM

I love that we have guys telling people not to seek self enrichment. We should always be trying to better ourselves. Whether it helps you get the job or not will be specific to the person but I certainly wouldn’t hurt anyone. I personally want to sit next to guys that prep like this is the biggest interview of their lives just like they would for any other airline, not a bunch of lazy asses that think spirit is going to be an easy bet and don’t think of themselves as “legacy material”.

Omniscient 06-12-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2835624)
I love that we have guys telling people not to seek self enrichment. We should always be trying to better ourselves. Whether it helps you get the job or not will be specific to the person but I certainly wouldn’t hurt anyone. I personally want to sit next to guys that prep like this is the biggest interview of their lives just like they would for any other airline, not a bunch of lazy asses that think spirit is going to be an easy bet and don’t think of themselves as “legacy material”.

Exactly.

Considering the poster who called it a scam, is the same person who has an avatar of his lanyard prototype he wanted to make for pilots to wear, going against the union direction during stalled negotiations.

Divisive language in many forms.

symbian simian 06-12-2019 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2835567)
"Scammer prep companies"...seriously?

Regardless of what you feel about their services, they have served many pilot well in achieving a job. Not every airline is "laid back, take your jacket off" like Spirit with their interview process. Emerald Coast will even refund your money if you dont get the job.

They offer a service and it serves many well who choose to seek their services, not everything is a scam.

That right there.

Super EZ E 06-12-2019 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2835567)
"Scammer prep companies"...seriously?

Regardless of what you feel about their services, they have served many pilot well in achieving a job. Not every airline is "laid back, take your jacket off" like Spirit with their interview process. Emerald Coast will even refund your money if you dont get the job.

They offer a service and it serves many well who choose to seek their services, not everything is a scam.

You are correct everything isn't a scam but these folks hustle. It's 100% scam just like the fee based job fairs. Yup Seriously it's a scam/hustle! These jokers charge you to get "prepped" and after the interview call you to get the gouge and check if the gouge they have is current. 100% hustle! Better hope the questions don't change! 100% refund!! LOL UAL was smart and started asking the Lat/long of your home airport. They use control questions for good reason! Who's trying to beat the system?? Go learn what you need to know as a professional aviator and you'll get the job you deserve. Stop buying gouge!!

Qotsaautopilot 06-12-2019 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2835910)
You are correct everything isn't a scam but these folks hustle. It's 100% scam just like the fee based job fairs. Yup Seriously it's a scam/hustle! These jokers charge you to get "prepped" and after the interview call you to get the gouge and check if the gouge they have is current. 100% hustle! Better hope the questions don't change! 100% refund!! LOL UAL was smart and started asking the Lat/long of your home airport. They use control questions for good reason! Who's trying to beat the system?? Go learn what you need to know as a professional aviator and you'll get the job you deserve. Stop buying gouge!!

Pay for job fairs are scams.

Interview consulting is not a scam. EC did not teach gouge at all. Good interview skills aren’t necessarily instinctual in an HR world. It’s not a boys club hiring other pilots. Knowing how to act and what to say and how and when to say it are learned mostly either through experience of failing or through being taught. And when I say “what to say” I don’t mean it in a specific way but in a generic sense. If you’ve used an interview consultant you’d know that they don’t teach a gouge. A lot of it is just good common sense but it’s a confidence builder knowing you prepared and also informs you on hot button topics that we sling around in the cockpit but can get you in trouble in an HR interview. I’m not talking about obvious things but more subtle things you might say in passing but not even realize it, as well as general body language you put out.

I think of myself as a generally personable guy that interviews well but that’s my own biased opinion. It’s nice to have a second objective opinion.

ChickenChicken 06-12-2019 11:22 PM

Also consider aviationinterviews.com which provided very useful and up-to-date information, however I feel the face to face interview prep gave me a lot more confidence. I would compare it to going through the profile for a V1 cut on your couch opposed to the simulator during a checkride. I don't think it matters too much which one you choose however one is definitely geared towards United.


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