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yeeeyeee 06-17-2019 09:37 AM

Flight Hour Requirements
 
It says on their website that minimum TT is 3000, but on APC it states 2000 TT. Has anyone here got hired under those minimums? I have just under 2,000 TT and wondering if I should drop in an application for the hiring spree about to start.

AllOva736 06-17-2019 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by yeeeyeee (Post 2838217)
It says on their website that minimum TT is 3000, but on APC it states 2000 TT. Has anyone here got hired under those minimums? I have just under 2,000 TT and wondering if I should drop in an application for the hiring spree about to start.

Mins are now 3,000. Sorry but having less than 2,000 makes applying a waste of your time unless you’re military.

StrykerB21 06-19-2019 10:26 AM

IMO applying is never a waste of time. It may take a while to get a call back but applying early and updating I think shows a genuine desire to be at Spirit.

Arliss 06-19-2019 11:02 AM

Agreed. I applied at Spirit right after I completed IOE with my regional. Almost 3 year and 2 job fairs later I have an interview.

Flightcap 06-19-2019 02:39 PM

Applying is never a waste of time. That being said, 4,000-5,000 TT was considered competitive as of the first week of May. That per VP of Flight Ops.

Keizer Soze 06-24-2019 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Flightcap (Post 2839741)
Applying is never a waste of time. That being said, 4,000-5,000 TT was considered competitive as of the first week of May. That per VP of Flight Ops.

Applying is never a waste of YOUR time. However, I used to hire pilots and it was really frustrating to post a job with minimum requirements and then have to sort through every Tom, Dick, and Harry without the required minimums that felt applying wasn't a waste of their time. Now, that was as a chief pilot with a lot of other job responsibilities, so I was not a full time recruiter. Maybe it is different with someone who only gets paid to sift through resumes looking for the next best employee....

Personally, I feel the right time to apply at any job you are interested in is exactly when you meet the minimum requirements, or when you have already met the requirements and are available to accept the job.

Flightcap 06-25-2019 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Keizer Soze (Post 2842621)
Applying is never a waste of YOUR time. However, I used to hire pilots and it was really frustrating to post a job with minimum requirements and then have to sort through every Tom, Dick, and Harry without the required minimums that felt applying wasn't a waste of their time. Now, that was as a chief pilot with a lot of other job responsibilities, so I was not a full time recruiter. Maybe it is different with someone who only gets paid to sift through resumes looking for the next best employee....

Personally, I feel the right time to apply at any job you are interested in is exactly when you meet the minimum requirements, or when you have already met the requirements and are available to accept the job.

This may be so, but let's be honest: as an applicant I care more about what opportunities exist for me than whether I'm wasting the recruiters' time. If there's a 1 in 100 chance that they will actually call you it's worth submitting the application in my opinion. I was shocked to get an interview with Spirit at around 2600 TT but ever so thankful for it and the job.

dera 06-30-2019 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Keizer Soze (Post 2842621)
Applying is never a waste of YOUR time. However, I used to hire pilots and it was really frustrating to post a job with minimum requirements and then have to sort through every Tom, Dick, and Harry without the required minimums that felt applying wasn't a waste of their time. Now, that was as a chief pilot with a lot of other job responsibilities, so I was not a full time recruiter. Maybe it is different with someone who only gets paid to sift through resumes looking for the next best employee....

Personally, I feel the right time to apply at any job you are interested in is exactly when you meet the minimum requirements, or when you have already met the requirements and are available to accept the job.

You weren't hiring pilots using one of the online portals(airlineapps, pilotcredentials), because that's not how they work.

If you don't meet the minimums, they won't let you apply. If you do but aren't competitive, then your application just stays in the pool but never gets out on any of the pulls. So there's absolutely no harm to have your app in the pool, but having an early timestamp can help you when you eventually become competitive. So your advice isn't relevant to the airline scale. Smaller 91/135, maybe, where they actually manually read every resume that comes in. Airlines don't do that.

Keizer Soze 07-01-2019 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2845746)
You weren't hiring pilots using one of the online portals(airlineapps, pilotcredentials), because that's not how they work.

If you don't meet the minimums, they won't let you apply. If you do but aren't competitive, then your application just stays in the pool but never gets out on any of the pulls. So there's absolutely no harm to have your app in the pool, but having an early timestamp can help you when you eventually become competitive. So your advice isn't relevant to the airline scale. Smaller 91/135, maybe, where they actually manually read every resume that comes in. Airlines don't do that.

My advice was to apply at the exact time you meet the minimum requirements. So, I think it is relevant. But, whatever. The bottom line is pilots will do whatever they want to do. So in that regard, you're right, my advice is not relevant.

Qotsaautopilot 07-01-2019 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Keizer Soze (Post 2846040)
My advice was to apply at the exact time you meet the minimum requirements. So, I think it is relevant. But, whatever. The bottom line is pilots will do whatever they want to do. So in that regard, you're right, my advice is not relevant.

However if we have evidence of guys getting hired below the minimums it would be seniority suicide for guys to wait to apply.


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