New changes that started yesterday.
08-16-2019, 03:57 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by YourMom
By the book you can't start the before start checklist until you receive the loadsheet and .Z report. I see a lot of late departures because of this.
08-16-2019, 04:01 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
I think I was pretty much running the old preflight and before start this way anyway. To me it’s the same just renamed. Never a problem.
People complaining this takes too much time. Haha. Ahhhhh, Pilots
08-16-2019, 04:01 PM
#24
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I really don’t see the issue other than renaming and rewording a couple checklists which will get guys to actually read the thing for a while. Nothing else much changing. Guys can flick whatever switches they want as long as someone is doing it. I was doing most nice weather walk around a anyway but I do admit I missed that change in the book if it actually happened
08-16-2019, 05:54 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
I really don’t see the issue other than renaming and rewording a couple checklists which will get guys to actually read the thing for a while. Nothing else much changing. Guys can flick whatever switches they want as long as someone is doing it. I was doing most nice weather walk around a anyway but I do admit I missed that change in the book if it actually happened
So in the end, it shouldn’t change anyone’s “process”.
Captains will awaken like the groundhog around September and do some walk arounds; eventually seeing their shadow with the first sign of cold air, and back into the hole until Spring breaks.
08-16-2019, 08:35 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
So checklist plus Neo Dual Cooling adds maybe 3 minutes to a leg. Maybe.
Relax, it’s piddly ****** to get worked up about.
Relax, it’s piddly ****** to get worked up about.
09-09-2019, 02:42 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
It’s a checklist that takes maybe 15 seconds to complete.... it can’t be that big of an issue. If you can’t manage to plug in numbers and do a checklist while the cabin crew is closing and arming that’s on you.
09-09-2019, 05:04 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
Seriously? The previous before start checklist wasn’t started until door closed and cabin ready. So now it’s the same process but maybe 6 or 7 additional lines to say on the checklist. This will cause you to be late?
09-09-2019, 05:53 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by YourMom
No. The preflight checklist is now the before start checklist to the line. We did the preflight well before everything was received. AOM just changed and agreed with me. There must have been delays during this "task saturation" period. I win.
09-10-2019, 03:50 AM
#30
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What a bunch of cry babies. You sound just like the Allegiant guys when the switch was made to Airbus FCOM... Then a year or two later we got a revision and the crying started again.
It's not a big deal. And who cares if an FO reaches over your head on the overhead panel to extinguish some white lights? Change is hard.
Oh, and the whiny ones here like to use the term "Task Saturated" too. Merger time!
Meanwhile, I'm always on time and the Bus is still the easiest plane I've ever operated.
It's not a big deal. And who cares if an FO reaches over your head on the overhead panel to extinguish some white lights? Change is hard.
Oh, and the whiny ones here like to use the term "Task Saturated" too. Merger time!
Meanwhile, I'm always on time and the Bus is still the easiest plane I've ever operated.
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