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Benver 11-05-2019 08:36 PM

Anybody commuting to Europe?
 
Hi I am just wondering if it is doable to drop some trips get a big block of days off and commute to europe.
Thanks😎

CAirBear 11-05-2019 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Benver (Post 2918715)
Hi I am just wondering if it is doable to drop some trips get a big block of days off and commute to europe.
Thanks😎

Once your off reserve yes. Outside of some weekends or major holidays, you can drop trips here fairly easily and manipulate your schedule as you see fit.

DickBurns 11-06-2019 04:13 AM

There is a DTW CA that says he commutes to AMS.

Balker 11-06-2019 12:01 PM

There’s going to be a vote on the 4 days-off pilot optional waiver. As far as the ability of bidding long stretches of days off, this waiver greatly enhances your chances. As a matter of fact, I’ve been seeing several pilots bidding that way, sometimes getting 10+ days off in a row. Regardless of your awarded line, you can always manipulate your schedule in daily open time.

You should consider how many hours you need to credit a month. If money is not an issue, you could put 2 4-day trips back to back. Maybe you’ll need a day off in between, but a stretch of 8-9 days of work will credit you a min of 40hrs and a max of 50hrs (maybe 52 if you’re lucky to grab those juicy 26hr 4-day Tripp’s)

Our schedules are super flexible as long as you’re a line holder. Now, reserve it’s a different story. I don’t see how could you commute internationally. Heck, even domestic would suck.

Deathwish 11-06-2019 02:02 PM

I heard the vote already took place and the option to waive is here to stay.

CAirBear 11-06-2019 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Deathwish (Post 2919254)
I heard the vote already took place and the option to waive is here to stay.

It better be. There is no point in not having the option. I’ve had to use it because NavBlue will look at the previous month and if you ended with 2 days off, it will default with the first 2 days off of the next month. Depending on this, you can get screwed out of the days off you need since it sticks to this pattern. This is especially true when on reserve and it builds its 6on 4 off.

Benver 11-06-2019 06:41 PM

Thanks for all the info 👍👍

Qotsaautopilot 11-07-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 2919336)
It better be. There is no point in not having the option. I’ve had to use it because NavBlue will look at the previous month and if you ended with 2 days off, it will default with the first 2 days off of the next month. Depending on this, you can get screwed out of the days off you need since it sticks to this pattern. This is especially true when on reserve and it builds its 6on 4 off.

Incorrect. That’s not how the four day off language works. If you want 4 days off but would like to work the first of the month with only two off at then end of the month prior you don’t necessarily have to waive. Transition period doesn’t apply

Qotsaautopilot 11-09-2019 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2919944)
Incorrect. That’s not how the four day off language works. If you want 4 days off but would like to work the first of the month with only two off at then end of the month prior you don’t necessarily have to waive. Transition period doesn’t apply

Well based on the holiday PBS email that was sent out it appears I’m wrong so I stand corrected. I’m assuming it doesn’t have to honor it for unstacking though in the first week of the month because I know I’ve been unstacked out of 4 days off.

I tell you though that email made it seem like PBS can really screw you out of your own seniority if you don’t have a PhD in how the system works. Made me miss hard lines in holiday months.

earlybird77w 11-09-2019 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2921061)
I’m assuming it doesn’t have to honor it for unstacking though in the first week of the month because I know I’ve been unstacked out of 4 days off.

I hear ya, had 12 coverage days awarded in Nov. Interested to see what the results are in Dec. Kind of sucks that a junior guy gets the days off I requested.

If I understand the email correctly it sounds like PBS does take into account the last week in the previous bid period to honor the CBA required 4-days off.

When you were unstacked did you waive the 4-day requirement?

Qotsaautopilot 11-09-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by earlybird77w (Post 2921094)
I hear ya, had 12 coverage days awarded in Nov. Interested to see what the results are in Dec. Kind of sucks that a junior guy gets the days off I requested.

If I understand the email correctly it sounds like PBS does take into account the last week in the previous bid period to honor the CBA required 4-days off.

When you were unstacked did you waive the 4-day requirement?

I’m pretty sure I didn’t but I can’t remember. prior to this month if I had waived it was only to 3.

Sennant 11-10-2019 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by earlybird77w (Post 2921094)
I hear ya, had 12 coverage days awarded in Nov. Interested to see what the results are in Dec. Kind of sucks that a junior guy gets the days off I requested.

If I understand the email correctly it sounds like PBS does take into account the last week in the previous bid period to honor the CBA required 4-days off.

When you were unstacked did you waive the 4-day requirement?

Yes, PBS honors all rules from month to month.


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