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Halon1211 11-10-2019 05:47 PM

IMHO I don’t think one checkride failure is that big of a deal. Some people may disagree...

DickBurns 11-10-2019 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2921612)
IMHO I don’t think one checkride failure is that big of a deal. Some people may disagree...

Nope, not a big deal.

Qotsaautopilot 11-10-2019 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Sieve (Post 2921376)
Line Oriented Evaluation, run a lot like a LOFT. It's typically the only "jeopardy" and PRIA reportable event of an AQP curriculum.

I guess when I was briefly in an aqp program it was called something different or I forgot, which is more likely.

I knew those were jeopardy but I vaguely remember hearing you couldn’t bust it as long a learning took place.

Don’t want to derail your thread but it got me thinking since we are moving toward aqp.

I think you have been given some solid advice on this thread btw.

Super EZ E 11-11-2019 04:02 AM

The check ride failure is not an issue. Failing to disclose is a MAJOR issue and will cause you to be terminated when Spirit finds out the truth. CP told me we fired a guy for failing to disclose a check ride failure, we would have hired him with the failure. The instructor you receive makes a major difference. Some guys could careless and some real do a good job. If your instructor flies the line more than instructs should be a clue. Read AOM 1 for your oral and AOM2 will tells your how we do it. Good luck we are hiring a lot of guys and hiring will continue! :D

Brohland1 11-11-2019 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2921741)
The check ride failure is not an issue. Failing to disclose is a MAJOR issue and will cause you to be terminated when Spirit finds out the truth. CP told me we fired a guy for failing to disclose a check ride failure, we would have hired him with the failure. The instructor you receive makes a major difference. Some guys could careless and some real do a good job. If your instructor flies the line more than instructs should be a clue. Read AOM 1 for your oral and AOM2 will tells your how we do it. Good luck we are hiring a lot of guys and hiring will continue! :D

Thank you for the advice. Like i mentioned earlier I disclosed it on the application and I have no problem discussing what happened and how I learned from it going forward afterwards.

dera 11-11-2019 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Sieve (Post 2921376)
Line Oriented Evaluation, run a lot like a LOFT. It's typically the only "jeopardy" and PRIA reportable event of an AQP curriculum.

Common misunderstanding here.

Every evaluation is PRIA reportable. Just not to the FAA, but your PRIA response from the previous airline must include all training records.

If you bust your MV, the unsat training report is in your pria package that the airline sends to the new employer.

Brohland1 11-13-2019 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2922052)
Common misunderstanding here.

Every evaluation is PRIA reportable. Just not to the FAA, but your PRIA response from the previous airline must include all training records.

If you bust your MV, the unsat training report is in your pria package that the airline sends to the new employer.

Good to know. I believe its just for five years tho, correct? Thats what someone in the records department told me.

Philknight 11-14-2019 05:25 PM

PRIA is 5 years, but they do an Freedom on Information act request and that goes all the way back to when you first got a certificate I believe.


Originally Posted by Brohland1 (Post 2923448)
Good to know. I believe its just for five years tho, correct? Thats what someone in the records department told me.



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