That’s not exclusive to LAS pairings. I’ve done 4 and 5 legs occasionally out of FLL. I personally avoid anything that has more than 2 legs a day but once in a while, I have swapped for those crappy trips just to accommodate last minute changes in my personal schedule. I didn’t suffer much on those days since I rarely have them though. On an everyday basis would be a much different story.

Also despite LAS crew’s imagination, they’re not the only ones being hammered by red eyes. The rest of the bases are also carrying the load, even with 2-leg red eyes.

For those trying to make it over to Spirit, keep in mind that red eyes are part of our lifestyle now. Once you’re senior you can avoid them. The occasional one leg trans-con won’t kill you.
If you are the kind of person that can’t handle a red eye at all, please reconsider your options. We’re in the business of lowering costs, which means flying the airplanes round the clock and optimizing gate space.

This surely is becoming the airline that never sleeps. (Nor our passengers for that matter)

The legacies do plenty of narrow body red eye flying.

Are there any trips out of LAS to central or South America? Got my app in now, hoping for another meet the chiefs in Vegas sometime.

lots of red eye turns to Central America for Vegas crews from FLL

Jungle redeyes...I’ve never seen any of these destinations in daylight but the credit is good for these trips out of LAS

I don’t think the Legacies have 2 to 3 red eye duty periods in a row on a 4 day trip. Most of the LAS trips are fly all night and day sleep. I have seen some trip improvement recently and we’ll see what the summer brings.

the difference is that legacies have a much higher percentage of flying during normal hours. Yes they have red eyes but they don’t make up the high percentage of flying that our las base has

It’s been said before, planes don’t make money on the ground. Higher utilization means more crews per plane and in-base growth, it means we can squeeze more out of limited gates in certain airports, and it means a more profitable company that can afford to pay us more come contract time.

They could have afforded to pay us more last time.


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you don’t get what they can afford, or even what you are worth. You get what you negotiate and agree to. Were you a no vote on the current CBA?