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FNGFO 08-31-2021 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB (Post 3288273)
When do new contract negotiations start at spirit?

Early openers Oct/2022 I think.

Tranquility 08-31-2021 02:57 PM

180 days prior to March 1st 2023 is actually September 2022 if my math is right….

IamEssential 09-01-2021 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3288556)
180 days prior to March 1st 2023 is actually September 2022 if my math is right….

Well, with the insane bonuses we are starting to see the Regionals give their people to stay and wait for flow or a call from the big 6 instead of leaving for the ULCCs or the ACMIs, Spirit may need to do something sooner than later.

Judge Smails 09-01-2021 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3288813)
Well, with the insane bonuses we are starting to see the Regionals give their people to stay and wait for flow or a call from the big 6 instead of leaving for the ULCCs or the ACMIs, Spirit may need to do something sooner than later.

We have over 3000 resumes on file and the average new hire has over 5800 hrs and 2800 PIC. I think we're ok, lol.

TransWorld 09-01-2021 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3288825)
We have over 3000 resumes on file and the average new hire has over 5000 hrs. I think we're ok, lol.

I wonder how many of those resumes are in at other airlines. My rough estimate is 3000 pilots will be hired by the majors (including ULCC and cargo) between now and early next summer.

JulesWinfield 09-01-2021 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3288825)
We have over 3000 resumes on file and the average new hire has over 5800 hrs and 2800 PIC. I think we're ok, lol.

For now. This is a little short sided.

IamEssential 09-01-2021 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3288825)
We have over 3000 resumes on file and the average new hire has over 5800 hrs and 2800 PIC. I think we're ok, lol.

If you don't think things can't change quickly in this industry then you are either brand new or one of those who just lives in their little bubble. But keep laughing, I'm sure everything will just be fine in your bubble.

Judge Smails 09-01-2021 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3288829)
If you don't think things can't change quickly in this industry then you are either brand new or one of those who just lives in their little bubble. But keep laughing, I'm sure everything will just be fine in your bubble.

Relax, Francis... I've been doing this a long time, and spent far more time at the regionals during 'the lost decade' than I ever wanted to, so I'm well aware of how things can change quickly. All I'm saying is we're doing fine, for now. Yes, that can change, but I also think most guys at regionals aren't going to be persuaded by a dangling carrot of bonuses to pass up a seniority number at a career airline.

IamEssential 09-01-2021 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3288832)
Relax, Francis... I've been doing this a long time, and spent far more time at the regionals during 'the lost decade' than I ever wanted to, so I'm well aware of how things can change quickly. All I'm saying is we're doing fine, for now. Yes, that can change, but I also think most guys at regionals aren't going to be persuaded by a dangling carrot of bonuses to pass up a seniority number at a career airline.

You have a few other posts to respond to as well from your ignorant comment.

Judge Smails 09-01-2021 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3288834)
You have a few other posts to respond to as well from your ignorant comment.


I think my response to your douchebaggery covers those questions, with the exception of the resumes...yeah, those 3000 are most likely also on file elsewhere as well.


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