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Conquistador27 02-14-2020 06:12 AM

PBS Question
 
I was told that if you are considered a line holder, as in you were bidding say 50 out of 100 lines, that the only way to get reserve is by bidding reserve. Is that true?

Turnleftwp 02-14-2020 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Conquistador27 (Post 2976643)
I was told that if you are considered a line holder, as in you were bidding say 50 out of 100 lines, that the only way to get reserve is by bidding reserve. Is that true?

wrong place to get your answer. Send an email to the PBS Trainers or JPWG.

Sennant 02-14-2020 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Conquistador27 (Post 2976643)
I was told that if you are considered a line holder, as in you were bidding say 50 out of 100 lines, that the only way to get reserve is by bidding reserve. Is that true?


No, you can bid in such a way that you put yourself on reserve.

elmetal 02-14-2020 08:21 AM

if you avoid ESN or CSSN you cannot be on reserve unless you bid yourself into it. Everything else is deniable to get you a line (except anything with CSSN/ESN attached)

I cannot emphasize how much people misuse clear schedule start next. stop using it if you don't understand it.

Qotsaautopilot 02-14-2020 10:42 AM

But but but they said you aren’t required to waive consecutive days off down from 4. Oh wait, you may not get a line if you didn’t waive and guys junior to you did. Hello rsv.

elmetal 02-14-2020 10:47 AM

that's also true. but that doesn't mean you bid yourself into reserve. that just means you could've waived certain parts of the contract to get a line, but if you didn't then no line. That's different than bidding yourself into reserve.

Qotsaautopilot 02-14-2020 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2976840)
that's also true. but that doesn't mean you bid yourself into reserve. that just means you could've waived certain parts of the contract to get a line, but if you didn't then no line. That's different than bidding yourself into reserve.

Not really. It means guys junior to you waived portions of the contract that are supposed to be protected and they took the line your seniority actually holds. It’s the same principle as someone willing to do your job for less. However anyone wants to view the 4 days off, it is supposed to be protected and you essentially are bidding to the lowest common denominator if guys below you are willing to waive.

AllOva736 02-14-2020 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2976861)
Not really. It means guys junior to you waived portions of the contract that are supposed to be protected and they took the line your seniority actually holds. It’s the same principle as someone willing to do your job for less. However anyone wants to view the 4 days off, it is supposed to be protected and you essentially are bidding to the lowest common denominator if guys below you are willing to waive.

IMO, it’s a protection if you want it but it doesn’t hinder your schedule if you don’t. You want the last 10 days of the month off? Won’t get it with mandatory 4 days off. Want every Friday - Sunday off? Won’t get it with mandatory 4 days off. Being able to waive it helps far more people than it hurts. Whatever gets you fired up though...

YellowBus 02-14-2020 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2976861)
Not really. It means guys junior to you waived portions of the contract that are supposed to be protected and they took the line your seniority actually holds. It’s the same principle as someone willing to do your job for less. However anyone wants to view the 4 days off, it is supposed to be protected and you essentially are bidding to the lowest common denominator if guys below you are willing to waive.

They are not taking it from you. If the waive didn't exist both of you would be on reserve as the software ran out of ways to legally put flying down and give 4 days every time.

The guy below you who "waived" didn't take anything from you.

Balker 02-14-2020 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by YellowBus (Post 2976944)
They are not taking it from you. If the waive didn't exist both of you would be on reserve as the software ran out of ways to legally put flying down and give 4 days every time.

The guy below you who "waived" didn't take anything from you.

This is exactly the way to look at it before getting all worked up.

If you’re right there on the cutoff line , including a RLL on your bid might save the day while still giving you 4 days off.


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