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Excargodog 02-18-2020 07:48 AM

“Jungle red-eye” hotels...
 
Are they quiet? Someplace you can get a decent morning and afternoon sleep? Any personal techniques experienced people might suggest?

Balker 02-18-2020 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2979192)
Are they quiet? Someplace you can get a decent morning and afternoon sleep? Any personal techniques experienced people might suggest?

What’s a jungle red-eye hotel?

MCDUmanipulator 02-18-2020 08:12 AM

The Wyndham sucks. Next to a busy road and bad curtains. However I think we’ve moved short stay in FLL

gringo 02-18-2020 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2979192)
Are they quiet? Someplace you can get a decent morning and afternoon sleep? Any personal techniques experienced people might suggest?

You're a “ex” freight dog asking for advice on daytime sleeping?

DrSteveBrule 02-18-2020 08:53 AM

Just did a red eye last week and they put me in that dumpy Hyatt by the cruiseport. That hotel sucks.

Excargodog 02-18-2020 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2979208)
You're a “ex” freight dog asking for advice on daytime sleeping?

Nope. Asking about the hotels in foreign countries mainly. My cargo nights were mostly domestic and out and backs. I know how to sleep in MY bed, day or night.

gringo 02-18-2020 09:22 AM

We don’t stay at hotels for “jungle red eyes”.

Those are turns.

The hotels from GYE and LIM are good enough, no better or worse than your typical Hilton or Marriott.

Ed Force One 02-18-2020 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2979207)
The Wyndham sucks. Next to a busy road and bad curtains. However I think we’ve moved short stay in FLL

Seconded. Make sure you get your room on the opposite side from the road. Don't know why, it's not even a busy road, but it was so loud even at night.

As for sleep tips. I've gotten used to sleeping with earplugs and use them 100% of the time I'm at work. White noise generator app on the phone if you need serious noise cx. Just make sure your alarm clock is loud and jarring. I also use the vibrating alarm on my smart watch.

Halon1211 02-18-2020 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Balker (Post 2979196)
What’s a jungle red-eye hotel?


here is one!

https://www.redhousejungleresort.com/

Deathwish 02-18-2020 09:50 AM

Using the hangars with the clips helps to keep the curtains closed tightly. Fold the ends over once and then clip them and it should get pretty dark.

ASAPsafetyGUY 02-18-2020 09:58 AM

FLL Hyatt convention is on point. For multiday red eye jungle loops, you keep same room, black out curtains and they don’t eff with you. Wyndham will call your room several times asking who you are, when you’re leaving, when you got there, and right about the time you cuss them out and tell them you need sleep, someone will come pounding on your door.

DrSteveBrule 02-18-2020 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2979289)
FLL Hyatt convention is on point. For multiday red eye jungle loops, you keep same room, black out curtains and they don’t eff with you. Wyndham will call your room several times asking who you are, when you’re leaving, when you got there, and right about the time you cuss them out and tell them you need sleep, someone will come pounding on your door.

I must be honest I never had to stay in the Wyndham. My red eye experiences were always the Dania Hyatts til the construction started, then i always got the Marina until now with the cruiseport place. So i have no point of reference regarding the Wyndham, but surely we can do better than the cruiseport Hyatt...It feels like a comfort inn to me.

Omniscient 02-18-2020 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2979289)
FLL Hyatt convention is on point. For multiday red eye jungle loops, you keep same room, black out curtains and they don’t eff with you. Wyndham will call your room several times asking who you are, when you’re leaving, when you got there, and right about the time you cuss them out and tell them you need sleep, someone will come pounding on your door.

I agree, I like the Hyatt..location is much better than the long stay Marina down the road, black out shades and room was quiet...In the end, you end up walking from the Hilton Marina to the restaurants by the Hyatt anyways.

Marina is always packed with people in cruise wear and the staff is less than anxious to help us at times. You need ear plugs to sleep or you have to listen to housekeeping and their loud conversations in Haitian creole. I need to learn how to say "****" in Haitian creole

Balker 02-18-2020 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2979253)
Nope. Asking about the hotels in foreign countries mainly. My cargo nights were mostly domestic and out and backs. I know how to sleep in MY bed, day or night.

The only layover that would qualify as “jungle” would be SJO. Sometimes it’s a turn, sometimes they split it into a 2-3 day trip. The Caribbean and Central American red eyes are turns from and back to FLL. Sometimes they stand alone as a FLL trip, sometimes they’re built into multi day trips from other bases.

senecacaptain 02-18-2020 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Balker (Post 2979327)
The only layover that would qualify as “jungle” would be SJO. Sometimes it’s a turn, sometimes they split it into a 2-3 day trip. The Caribbean and Central American red eyes are turns from and back to FLL. Sometimes they stand alone as a FLL trip, sometimes they’re built into multi day trips from other bases.

Which cities in South America are overnights ? (all of them ?)

KCJake 02-18-2020 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Balker (Post 2979327)
The only layover that would qualify as “jungle” would be SJO. Sometimes it’s a turn, sometimes they split it into a 2-3 day trip. The Caribbean and Central American red eyes are turns from and back to FLL. Sometimes they stand alone as a FLL trip, sometimes they’re built into multi day trips from other bases.

I’m about to do the MGA turn out of FLL as part of a Vegas pairing. The Marina is a decent hotel but it sucks for day sleeping. It’s brighter than hell in my room. I was in the Tampa short stay yesterday and when I woke up at 1330, it may as well have been midnight.

gringo 02-18-2020 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 2979328)
Which cities in South America are overnights ? (all of them ?)

South America; LIM, GYE, BOG, CLO.

Central America; occasionally SJO and apparently now SAP.

Caribbean; SJU, BQN, SDQ

Balker 02-18-2020 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 2979328)
Which cities in South America are overnights ? (all of them ?)

Don’t get too excited when looking at NK’s route map. We have a small portion of international overnights. With the company growing domestically, the ratio between domestic vs international overnights will spread even further. You’re not signing up for exotic layovers.

Excargodog 02-18-2020 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Balker (Post 2979473)
Don’t get too excited when looking at NK’s route map. We have a small portion of international overnights. With the company growing domestically, the ratio between domestic vs international overnights will spread even further. You’re not signing up for exotic layovers.

so, do they go senior or ...?

RemoveB4flght 02-18-2020 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2979475)
so, do they go senior or ...?

Bogota and Cali can go senior.

Lima and Guayaquil you can pick up anytime. The hotels are decent, but with the new scheduling rules they are an underpaid 3 day, and a red eye return. (Depart in the evening, arrive close to midnight, return the next night and home early morning on third day. Because there are only two duty periods, it doesn’t pay 15 credit like other 3 days, usually 11-12 credit)

SJO is a bit odd and depends on the pairing it’s attached to, Same with SJU. At best they are a nice full almost 24 stay from midday to the next. At worst you arrive in the morning, leave later that evening and hope you can sleep. New SJU is in a great location and has a 24/7 Denny’s in the lobby.

Santo Domingo hotel is decent, but not something I go out of my way to bid for.

In short, almost anywhere down South we fly to is either a turn, or somewhere better to visit on days off. Sorry to burst the bubble of anyone coming here to see exotic locations on the company dime.

Balker 02-18-2020 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2979475)
so, do they go senior or ...?

It all depends. For example, CLO it’s a FLL trip that goes really senior. It pays well and only has 2 legs. LIM and GYE go fairly jr given the low credit and red eye leg back. I don’t think we have BOG as a FLL trip anymore, I don’t know which base is doing it. SJO layovers are all over the place. Depends on the month, the day, the base, etc. Same as SJU and BQN.

As far as turns with no layover’s, if they stand alone and are daytime, they go very senior. Also, crew scheduling will block them for OE.


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