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SSlow 04-16-2020 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 3033804)
Leisure travel as in road trip to Grandma's.

Buy Goodyear stock...

lmao ok dawg...

have you ever driven from Denver to Florida??

nuball5 04-16-2020 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3033789)
It's becoming clear that domestic leisure travel will be the first to make a comeback. It will look different as passengers might be required to wear masks and other mitigation tactics, but the general public will be okay with a set amount of risk (more and more people are getting out and about here in "high risk" FL). Hopefully international travel won't be too far behind, but that is going to largely depend on whatever limiting policies remain in specific countries.

Corporate travel, however, is going to take a hit until we have an effective vaccine. Fortunately that doesn't affect us here at Spirit, but the legacies are going to be hurting for awhile. Facebook just announced no more large events thru June 2021.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/zuck...june-2021.html

For the foreseeable future, I think this is going to become the new normal for corporate America. The social justice warriors will create some kind of social responsibility campaign and pressure large companies to limit travel and large gatherings which are not absolutely required. Large companies will have a gun held to their head and be forced to either participate or face mass amounts of public scrutiny and boycotts, much like we see with the alphabet people every June and the inundation of pink every October. I don't think it will be permanent but it will likely prevail in the interim until we get a vaccine.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...nonavirus/amp/

“Business travel will recover more quickly than leisure travel but at a permanently lower level.”

AxlF16 04-16-2020 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3033789)
It's becoming clear that domestic leisure travel will be the first to make a comeback. It will look different as passengers might be required to wear masks and other mitigation tactics, but the general public will be okay with a set amount of risk (more and more people are getting out and about here in "high risk" FL). Hopefully international travel won't be too far behind, but that is going to largely depend on whatever limiting policies remain in specific countries.

Corporate travel, however, is going to take a hit until we have an effective vaccine. Fortunately that doesn't affect us here at Spirit, but the legacies are going to be hurting for awhile. Facebook just announced no more large events thru June 2021.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/zuck...june-2021.html

For the foreseeable future, I think this is going to become the new normal for corporate America. The social justice warriors will create some kind of social responsibility campaign and pressure large companies to limit travel and large gatherings which are not absolutely required. Large companies will have a gun held to their head and be forced to either participate or face mass amounts of public scrutiny and boycotts, much like we see with the alphabet people every June and the inundation of pink every October. I don't think it will be permanent but it will likely prevail in the interim until we get a vaccine.

Wishful thinking IMO.

Mtnbikemike 04-16-2020 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rockiepilot (Post 3033697)
You all took it. Welcome to the real world. No special treatment. Maybe Spirit won’t jump on over saturated routes and ruin the market in the future. It’s what happens when you overlap routes that are already over saturated.

Sounds like there is a furlough in your future.

SaintNick 04-16-2020 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3033841)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...nonavirus/amp/

“Business travel will recover more quickly than leisure travel but at a permanently lower level.”

I know that’s what the author says. I just don’t see it. I expect people to bw tired of being cooped up and want to get away to
the beach etc., most businesses will take longer imo. Sure some will come back but i
expect that to be very low.

offmyrocker 04-16-2020 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Rockiepilot (Post 3033697)
You all took it. Welcome to the real world. No special treatment. Maybe Spirit won’t jump on over saturated routes and ruin the market in the future. It’s what happens when you overlap routes that are already over saturated.

Looking forward to sticking it to you again when this turns around. Go have a drink with Parker and you better offer to pick up the Uber, with that dui dumbass leader of yours.

senecacaptain 04-16-2020 06:34 PM

look, if anybody has a crystal ball as to what travel will come back first, or if it comes back quickly (it better start to come back before Oct-1), etc. etc needs to quit their airline job and become a hedge fund manager where obviously your skills will be better used.

this includes journalists and free lancers on Seeking Alpha who get paid $10 for some article they wrote.

SSlow 04-16-2020 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3033916)
I know that’s what the author says. I just don’t see it. I expect people to bw tired of being cooped up and want to get away to
the beach etc., most businesses will take longer imo. Sure some will come back but i
expect that to be very low.

Exactly. It's called having a credit card, and getting there cheap will be the name of the game. Most people don't give a damn about complimentary pretzels and soda at this point.

nuball5 04-16-2020 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3033916)
I know that’s what the author says. I just don’t see it. I expect people to bw tired of being cooped up and want to get away to
the beach etc., most businesses will take longer imo. Sure some will come back but i
expect that to be very low.

Well I guess agree to disagree then. My wife works for a large consulting firm and they are just waiting for the green light to get consultants traveling again. I’m sure they’re not the only ones.

I also think that an initial uptick in business travel when things start improving will boost the confidence in leisure travelers that it’s safe to travel again and jumpstart the leisure market.

DrSteveBrule 04-16-2020 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rockiepilot (Post 3033697)
You all took it. Welcome to the real world. No special treatment. Maybe Spirit won’t jump on over saturated routes and ruin the market in the future. It’s what happens when you overlap routes that are already over saturated.


OMG someone is butthurt af lol #triggered


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