Furloughs?
#62
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
Regardless of one’s viewpoint, it better go to the pilot group for a vote and not unilaterally imposed. We’ve already been down that road of a MEC chairman making decisions for the whole group and that didn’t go over very well....
Still waiting for my quid....
I’m more wary of the precedent it sets, especially with this company. Give them an inch, they’ll want another mile. We lower ALV, they say okay that’ll protect 200, but if you pause DOS+3/4 that’ll protect more..... You see where I’m going???
Still waiting for my quid....
I’m more wary of the precedent it sets, especially with this company. Give them an inch, they’ll want another mile. We lower ALV, they say okay that’ll protect 200, but if you pause DOS+3/4 that’ll protect more..... You see where I’m going???
Although, reducing ALV isn’t really giving anything as we don’t have a min ALV in our contract. It’s based on historical averages. We do have a max precisely because they would want to make it as high as possible in a normal market. High ALV mean less days off and less pilots doing the same flying.
I don’t know the specifics of JetBlues line construction language or the LOA so I can’t speak to that.
I think VOLUNTARY programs like the VILs are a good place to start.
My understanding is southwest offered something like 50hrs or pay per month on their trips for pay scale for “up to” FIVE YEARS with health care and retirement contribution. Also if you are over 55 years old you could take an early out which was something like 60hrs per month until age 65 with health care. From a company that has never had a furlough but also single fleet like us.
Make the offer good enough and plenty of folks will volunteer. Heck long term VIL with retirement contribution and health care removes a lot of risk to take extended family time, start a business you never had time too before or couldn’t take the risk of quitting flying, or just catch up on living life. YOLO!
oh and still waiting on my quid
Last edited by Qotsaautopilot; 07-04-2020 at 09:16 PM.
#64
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 211
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?
#65
I know seniority is a hard thing to grasp for the I need to have it now, millennial mindset generation. I know it’s hard to hear the truth and not get a participation trophy. But I’m actually a decent guy to fly with. I don’t flight instruct. I let you learn doing it your way and do what works for you. I usually pick up the tab the entire trip for all first year guys that don’t act entitled. I’d also be the first to take an early out to let you have your piece of the pie. 30 years as a commercial pilot is starting to lose it’s charm.
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?
elegant response!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
#67
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 118
I know seniority is a hard thing to grasp for the I need to have it now, millennial mindset generation. I know it’s hard to hear the truth and not get a participation trophy. But I’m actually a decent guy to fly with. I don’t flight instruct. I let you learn doing it your way and do what works for you. I usually pick up the tab the entire trip for all first year guys that don’t act entitled...
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?
after reading this post I also want to be able to call in sick for this guy
#70
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 63
I know seniority is a hard thing to grasp for the I need to have it now, millennial mindset generation. I know it’s hard to hear the truth and not get a participation trophy. But I’m actually a decent guy to fly with. I don’t flight instruct. I let you learn doing it your way and do what works for you. I usually pick up the tab the entire trip for all first year guys that don’t act entitled. I’d also be the first to take an early out to let you have your piece of the pie. 30 years as a commercial pilot is starting to lose it’s charm.
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?
And I doubt anyone at Spirit is just now figuring out how seniority works although this place has more qualities of a regional airline than I care to admit.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post