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flyingpuma1 07-08-2020 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3088055)
https://thepointsguy.com/news/spirit...tpg-interview/

The difference between what they are saying and what they are thinking. Surprisingly, WN management let the cat out of the bag.

From the friends I have at WN no one has "let the cat out of the bag" per se. Gary all along has been saying it's bad and the goal is to survive, I think people might just be finally believing it instead of being hopeful.

69fastback 07-08-2020 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3088121)
Situations can always change. The INTENT to emerge relatively stronger than the competitors doesn’t.

It’s called free market Capitalism.

Of course the intent is there. I intend to be a multi millionaire, that does nothing but fish, by the time I’m 50. Intent doesn’t equate to reality. It’s called real life.

Mtnbikemike 07-08-2020 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3087997)
Well then, you've been around long enough to know that opinions are like assh*les, everbody has one.

To think any us have the answers to this unprecedented, day to day crisis is ludicrous. But by all means, you continue to tell those about to possibly hit the the street, you told them so.

I have lived through more of these cycles than I care to remember and I honestly don’t wish it upon anyone. But it is just part of the business as frustrating as it can be. We have all put in lots of time and expense into this career and it feels like it failed you. It does and will come around again. It’s a wild ride.

Lear Driver 07-08-2020 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike (Post 3087965)
The old saying was when got hired at a major.....

First year, live like you were at a commuter

As an FO, live like you were an FE

As a captain, live like you were an FO and you would always be prepared for a furlough or downgrade.

Probably doesn’t work nowadays for the need to have it all now generation.

Bro I'm a Gen X'er, but I have to wonder. Why the constant hate on millennials in practically every post? Some kinda jealousy at how good a career some of them have had so far? Emphasis on "so far." Many are about to get their first rodeo. At some point single pilot, or God forbid, no pilot will happen. They're gonna get theirs like all of us have over the course of this career.

Best of luck to us all!

Qotsaautopilot 07-08-2020 04:32 PM

Most have no clue who millennials are. Many graduated college before the financial crisis that the ultimate give me generation created in 08. Yet we were so low on the pecking order in every industry we were the first to suffer the consequences of that ordeal that lasted years and we were the last to recover. Many of us in just the last couple years.

Forget flying, we got furloughed and there weren’t jobs in any industry. Wanna know why people have kids so late these days? It’s because none of us had money to have them or buy a home. We were just trying to eat. I’d say millennials have a better perspective on living through adversity than most boomers.

Now there is a younger generation in the work force and those that are pilots may have not experienced a downturn yet. Let them learn instead of bashing them. But don’t confuse them with a millennial. Let me proceed to get off your lawn.

Tranquility 07-08-2020 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 3088304)
Now there is a younger generation in the work force and those that are pilots may have not experienced a downturn yet. Let them learn instead of bashing them. But don’t confuse them with a millennial. Let me proceed to get off your lawn.

They’re called genZ, and those are the ones people idiotically confuse with millennials. Every time I hear someone ***** about millennials not realizing that I AM ONE, I just smile and think to myself, okay gramps.... And, within the millennial generation, some of us witnessed 9/11 as adults, others just started 1st grade.

As a millennial, this is my 3rd ‘rodeo’... First I was senior enough to be relatively unaffected, second I lost my Captain seat for over a year, this one tbd... Good luck to us all.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 07-08-2020 09:16 PM

Only a Gen Y or Zer would consider losing "your" left seat for a whole year to be a life-changing catastrophic event.

DrSteveBrule 07-08-2020 09:28 PM

Gen Xer here. This generational stuff is a bore. Try listening to some Bowie or something. Find a hobby. We're all screwed up. As Frankie says, relax.

symbian simian 07-08-2020 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule (Post 3088439)
Gen Xer here. This generational stuff is a bore. Try listening to some Bowie or something. Find a hobby. We're all screwed up. As Frankie says, relax.

Dude, if you know who Bowie is or what Frankie said you are a boomer!

week 07-09-2020 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike (Post 3087965)
The old saying was when got hired at a major.....
First year, live like you were at a commuter
As an FO, live like you were an FE
As a captain, live like you were an FO and you would always be prepared for a furlough or downgrade.
Probably doesn’t work nowadays for the need to have it all now generation.


oh and heeeeeeereee we go back to the “generation” argument. Man some people spend their entire lives hating anyone younger than them

I sincerely hope I behave better and set a better example than you do when I’m your age


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