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LongHornFlyer 09-09-2022 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by In Exile (Post 3491734)
Do their fleeces have a 4-6 month ordering backlog? Asking for a friend.

Ohhhhhhh....
I get it, I'm suppose to freeze my ass off all winter, it looks more professional. Got it.

Does Spirit still do Perrone leather jackets?

CincoDeMayo 09-09-2022 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by LongHornFlyer (Post 3491890)
Does Spirit still do Perrone leather jackets?

Yes.

If you buy a leather or Karbon as a newhire, you can submit for expense reimbursement after 36 month. It’s ridiculous they make you wait, even more ridiculous is after 3 years you have to wait 6 years for your next leather or Karbon reimbursement.

One thing Jblue has, that we should keep, is uniform allowance vs the crap reissue we get every 18 months

LongHornFlyer 09-09-2022 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3491909)
Yes.

If you buy a leather or Karbon as a newhire, you can submit for expense reimbursement after 36 month. It’s ridiculous they make you wait, even more ridiculous is after 3 years you have to wait 6 years for your next leather or Karbon reimbursement.

One thing Jblue has, that we should keep, is uniform allowance vs the crap reissue we get every 18 months

Roger. What’s the best way to repurpose my leather jacket from my regional? I’ve worn it literally zero times. Is it just a different patch?

Probably a good question for Perrone but I know they are backed up. Curious who on here has done it and what they did…

ftaba1 09-09-2022 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by LongHornFlyer (Post 3491915)
Roger. What’s the best way to repurpose my leather jacket from my regional? I’ve worn it literally zero times. Is it just a different patch?

Probably a good question for Perrone but I know they are backed up. Curious who on here has done it and what they did…

Did that with my black jacket from a regional instead of buying Karbon. Put a Velcro patch over the previous company logo and attached Spirit wings to it. Works really well, get a lot of questions if this is a new style Karbon jacket lol. You can probably do the same with the leather, just need a brown velcro piece.

Fah2 09-09-2022 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by LongHornFlyer (Post 3491915)
Roger. What’s the best way to repurpose my leather jacket from my regional? I’ve worn it literally zero times. Is it just a different patch?

Probably a good question for Perrone but I know they are backed up. Curious who on here has done it and what they did…

There’s no exterior patch on the Spirit leather jacket, just some grommets to affix your wings. Patch on the inside with your name and employee number for lost and found.

It’s the main reason I went for it before the Karbon jacket was a “thing”, because you can remove the wings and it’s just a low key leather bomber you can wear on cold layovers. Downside is it’s heavy to tote and once in a stuffy terminal it can get juicy wearing it to avoid carrying.

I was inverted 09-09-2022 07:45 AM

Just as a heads up, the “brand” department at b6 has more power than the B6 VP of flight ops. They axed the leather jacket, flight ops tried to get the karbon approved, got shot down, so B6 ended up with a Kim Jong Un wool overcoat (horrible for a pilot overcoat) and a $300 ($150 at macys or Amazon when it was in stock) all weather jacket (hart Schaffer Marx hartsdale or something like that). The obviously non-pilot B6 uniform people who live in a cubicle in NYC have the most atrocious taste, and they are cheap as hell so the quality of the uniforms is terrible. So, you have that to look forward to. Guess the point is, enjoy the Karbon and leather and normal uniforms while you can. If the merger goes through, you have a career full of uniform (among other) frustration to look forward to.

LongHornFlyer 09-09-2022 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3492063)
There’s no exterior patch on the Spirit leather jacket, just some grommets to affix your wings. Patch on the inside with your name and employee number for lost and found.

It’s the main reason I went for it before the Karbon jacket was a “thing”, because you can remove the wings and it’s just a low key leather bomber you can wear on cold layovers. Downside is it’s heavy to tote and once in a stuffy terminal it can get juicy wearing it to avoid carrying.

Cool. They come with just the blacked out patch to put in place of the company patch. Sounds like I could probably just affix some wings to that and be good to go.

dualinput 09-09-2022 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3491764)
Just buy some generic black jacket from Costco. No one cares.

Do not do this! And yes people care. There are three approved jacket options. It doesn’t have to be the Karbon. You don’t just wear whatever bc you don’t like the blazer or the leather jacket.

Excargodog 09-09-2022 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3492065)
Just as a heads up, the “brand” department at b6 has more power than the B6 VP of flight ops. They axed the leather jacket, flight ops tried to get the karbon approved, got shot down, so B6 ended up with a Kim Jong Un wool overcoat (horrible for a pilot overcoat) and a $300 ($150 at macys or Amazon when it was in stock) all weather jacket (hart Schaffer Marx hartsdale or something like that). The obviously non-pilot B6 uniform people who live in a cubicle in NYC have the most atrocious taste, and they are cheap as hell so the quality of the uniforms is terrible. So, you have that to look forward to. Guess the point is, enjoy the Karbon and leather and normal uniforms while you can. If the merger goes through, you have a career full of uniform (among other) frustration to look forward to.

Management needs the JCBA more than the pilots do. If you don’t have the leverage today to insure a good looking comfortable uniform, when would you?

And no, I wouldn’t give up a damn thing for it. Try a nonnegotiable demand - after they’ve bought the NK shares. Bet it’ll work.

onedolla 09-09-2022 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3492107)
Do not do this! And yes people care. There are three approved jacket options. It doesn’t have to be the Karbon. You don’t just wear whatever bc you don’t like the blazer or the leather jacket.

”Care” as in you’ll report the violator to pro standards or the chief pilot?

Or “care” as in you’ll awkwardly confront them about dressing and looking the part as a professional while wearing your stained unironed oversized shirt that still can’t hide your paunch, unhemmed pants and scuffed up pleather slip ons? And if this doesn’t describe you, and you’re hell bent on single-handedly cleaning up the group’s image, I’ve just described the targets you should be going after.


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