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Old 02-25-2021, 07:25 PM
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Iíve heard rumors that Spiritís training isnít very good. Does anyone have any insights on this rumor?
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Iíve heard rumors that Spiritís training isnít very good. Does anyone have any insights on this rumor?
They expect you to show up day 1 already knowing your flows and most systems stuff (they give you the material in advance). The instructors are great but just have to show up knowing most of it.
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Iíve heard rumors that Spiritís training isnít very good. Does anyone have any insights on this rumor?
lol....

itís not set up to spoon feed you... they expect you to take initiative and learn the material yourself and ask questions if you need to clarify something.

if you didnít know it going into training, youíre still not going to know it after you complete training.

but you will know your flows, memory items and limitations if you successfully complete training and nothing else.

that goes for new hire training and upgrade training.
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Limitations, Memory Items and Flows with callouts prior to day 1. For flows if you can point at the each switch in the correct flow order that will be good enough to start training. The rest will be easy if you have those three things down.
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Iíve heard rumors that Spiritís training isnít very good. Does anyone have any insights on this rumor?


I wouldnít say the training isnít good. If you are a loner and donít participate in group studies, you will struggle. The company doesnít baby you, but if you put the effort in, they will reciprocate if you need a little extra help.


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Iíve heard rumors that Spiritís training isnít very good. Does anyone have any insights on this rumor?
Never heard anyone say the training isnít good. Itís fast paced and like others have said you must study before day 1 as they donít spoon feed you like the regionals.
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Spirit training is fast paced and relentless. You need to show up knowing flows (CA & FO), the main profiles and callouts, and all the memorization - COLD. Like sit in front of a paper tiger and do flows with your eyes closed. Bang out limitations & memory items before the question is finished - not be searching for them in your mind.

If you are this prepared, then training will be chill and in the evening you can sit by the pool, drink beer, and relax and breeze through it. I did, and it was only my 2nd type - and I breezed through with no stress. Those who show up expecting to learn during training don't make it.

You only get 5 sims before your type ride - from both seats. My regional was up to 13 sims and still had a 20% washout. at NK, not so much. There is not much time off between things.

All that said, the training is top notch. The Sim & FTD instructors are fellow pilots, and are top notch. No one is out to "get you". They want you to succeed - if YOU ARE PREPARED.
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Hands down best training Iíve had in any flight department. Plenty of events to feel ready for the checkride and if for some reason you are struggling, they work with you to get you comfortable and add events if needed. Our class only had 1 guy struggle (older guy) and they gave him a LOT of chances to catch up.

super organized, clear goals and expectations, and they donít hand you the books and expect you to know everything when you show up. Most instructors are reasonable and not terribly old.

Iíve heard itís been bad here in the past, but itís great now. Pass rate in 2019 was above 92 or 94% IIRC

if you show up day 1 knowing only the flows and limitations, the entire process will be easy
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I wouldnít say the training isnít good. If you are a loner and donít participate in group studies, you will struggle. The company doesnít baby you, but if you put the effort in, they will reciprocate if you need a little extra help.


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Not a Spirit pilot, but I have done lots of airline training ranging from old school ďbuild the airplaneĒ weed out regional days, to gentle hand holding major airline training.

The whole ďgroup studyĒ being required for success is a myth. Some people need to be spoon fed by their peers, but it sure isnít necessary if you have good study habits and you practice flows with your sim partner. Personally, I find group study a tremendous waste of time and donít ever do it (group beers/dinners are another matter!)

Just to emphasize though, practicing flows/call outs/checklists with your sim partner is incredibly important.
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Not a Spirit pilot, but I have done lots of airline training ranging from old school ďbuild the airplaneĒ weed out regional days, to gentle hand holding major airline training.



The whole ďgroup studyĒ being required for success is a myth. Some people need to be spoon fed by their peers, but it sure isnít necessary if you have good study habits and you practice flows with your sim partner. Personally, I find group study a tremendous waste of time and donít ever do it (group beers/dinners are another matter!)



Just to emphasize though, practicing flows/call outs/checklists with your sim partner is incredibly important.


I wouldnít call it a myth. The two guys who washed out of our class were loners. I agree some can be alone and study and be prepared. I would venture to say most benefit from a ďgroupĒ study session. Group can be defined as 3/4/5/10 people whatever works for you.

Seems most classes had study groups.


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