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Tranquility 04-10-2021 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 3220080)
You left a big part out, which is tax on capital gains. It's easier to avoid capital gains tax on real estate than investing in Index on Mutual funds on the side. My wife is driving around in our "company" car that we are deducting the depreciation of the car and real estate investment, which offset part of my W2. There's more to real estate investing, than owning a rental property. I sold a commercial property a few years back and provided seller financing to the buyer, while collecting the loan payment and 5% interest rate. That's just a fix rate of return on interest, and doesn't even factor in the valve that it went up before I sold it.

Can you replicate that same result multiple times over 4 decades??

Silver02ex 04-10-2021 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3220085)
Can you replicate that same result multiple times over 4 decades??

Why can't you? my last sale, is a 10 year loan on a 15 year amortization schedule. Most commercial loans are 5-20 years term. The down payment from the buyer paid off my loan (at the time), which means I own it out right. This is where these kinds of deals is different from a traditional rental property. If the buyer default, I'll eventually foreclose, and put it back up for sale. It actually works in my advantage. Don't get me wrong, I do have investment in Index / Mutual funds, along with my kid's 529, but I get the best ROR in real estate once factor in the tax advantage.

Tranquility 04-10-2021 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 3220105)
Why can't you? my last sale, is a 10 year loan on a 15 year amortization schedule. Most commercial loans are 5-20 years term. The down payment from the buyer paid off my loan (at the time), which means I own it out right. This is where these kinds of deals is different from a traditional rental property. If the buyer default, I'll eventually foreclose, and put it back up for sale. It actually works in my advantage.

I am glad you are doing well. Will it beat the market with reinvested dividends is my curiosity.....

Silver02ex 04-10-2021 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3220114)
I am glad you are doing well. Will it beat the market with reinvested dividends is my curiosity.....

My post wasn't just about rate of return. Once you factor in the tax advantage, my investment in real estate has a bigger advantage. Investing in Index / Mutual fund doesn't help reduce my personal taxable income. By having my wife qualify as a real estate professional, and carrying over the those deduction from the LLC to offset the W2 makes a big difference.

Aero1900 04-11-2021 07:33 AM

Real estate is undoubtedly one of the greatest investments in history.

But I don't have to hassle tenants about late rent. I don't have to worry about them ****ing off the neighbors. I don't have to worry about a 2am call about a water leak.

My stocks don't cause me any of those headaches. And I don't like headaches. You just have to pay attention. And when you pay attention you can buy a stock like Spirit at $8.

TransWorld 04-11-2021 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3220236)
Real estate is undoubtedly one of the greatest investments in history.

But I don't have to hassle tenants about late rent. I don't have to worry about them ****ing off the neighbors. I don't have to worry about a 2am call about a water leak.

My stocks don't cause me any of those headaches. And I don't like headaches. You just have to pay attention. And when you pay attention you can buy a stock like Spirit at $8.

Or you can hire a property management company.

TrojanCMH 04-11-2021 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3220236)
Real estate is undoubtedly one of the greatest investments in history.

But I don't have to hassle tenants about late rent. I don't have to worry about them ****ing off the neighbors. I don't have to worry about a 2am call about a water leak.

My stocks don't cause me any of those headaches. And I don't like headaches. You just have to pay attention. And when you pay attention you can buy a stock like Spirit at $8.


This is true. It’s not for everyone. Look into real estate investment trusts if you don’t care to deal with the actual asset and have no use for future or family use.

Stomper 04-11-2021 11:48 AM

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flensr 04-12-2021 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain (Post 3218491)
Except being on first year pay, is there an advantage I’m missing to why you would contribute 0%?

I'm an FO with 3 young kids living in an expensive SoCal area so cash flow is my problem. I'm at 0% until I can pay for my kid's swim team and hockey dues without dipping into savings. Works out to about 5th year pay in my budget. YMMV, I did the math and made my choices eyes wide open. No regrets, but company DC makes up 99% of my retirement savings for now.

comrcap 04-21-2021 01:17 AM

Ual ceo said domestic traffic was over 100% recovered, so I expect blow out earnings and guidance by spirit after the close!
Go Spirit!


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