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Sike 10-25-2021 02:28 PM

While we're at it, SMF, SMF, SMF.

One of the fastest growing metro areas in the country, a relatively dead airport, limited competition, and a pilot population that would, in many cases, rather be based there over driving to OAK/SFO.

Tranquility 10-25-2021 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3313867)
Most of the super senior at spirit live in base. The commuters will always bounce around but the only way to flush out some senior people out is to give them some place desirable to move their lives to. BWI ain’t it. Also if our memories aren’t too short remember when we open new bases all the other bases stagnate for a couple of years so enjoy that little fun fact and be careful what you wish for if you want to stay put.

When we opened LAS/DFW/ORD it was a stagnation shrinkage nightmare then just when growth started to happen again along came MCO and stagnation again.

Actually, quite the opposite happened for me when MCO opened. I was moving up consistently 3-4 #’s a month the first 6-ish months it opened. Since then, stagnation…..

93Sierra 10-25-2021 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sike (Post 3313905)
While we're at it, SMF, SMF, SMF.

One of the fastest growing metro areas in the country, a relatively dead airport, limited competition, and a pilot population that would, in many cases, rather be based there over driving to OAK/SFO.


you’d be a fool to live in commiefornia with the tax hit you’d take as a captain. West coast base would be great but forget the people’s republic of california

Ratm0820 10-25-2021 06:19 PM

Salt Lake City please

Bike Handles 10-25-2021 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 3313990)
you’d be a fool to live in commiefornia with the tax hit you’d take as a captain. West coast base would be great but forget the people’s republic of california

If only they had 49 other states to chose from!

filler

BobbyLeeSwagger 10-25-2021 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 3313990)
you’d be a fool to live in commiefornia with the tax hit you’d take as a captain. West coast base would be great but forget the people’s republic of california

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Meep 10-25-2021 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Morada (Post 3313207)
Ted came through my recurrent class about a month ago and outright denied the possibility of a LA base.

last I heard was BWI, IAH with a rumor of PHL.

NK wants no part of CA employment law.

Fah2 10-25-2021 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 3313990)
you’d be a fool to live in commiefornia with the tax hit you’d take as a captain. West coast base would be great but forget the people’s republic of california

I believe you are talking about the Democratic People’s Republic of Kalifornistan

Halon1211 10-26-2021 05:46 AM

I’m all for opening a new base if it makes the “Senior Daddies” leave.

Excargodog 10-26-2021 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3314032)

Seriously, Bobby, I’m not sure you understand how uncompetitive the business and tax climate is for those of us not raised there. Or how desperate Franchise Tax is going to be to get more from you poor souls who live there. You need to commute from Reno.

Bike Handles 10-26-2021 08:26 AM

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BobbyLeeSwagger 10-26-2021 09:09 AM

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BobbyLeeSwagger 10-26-2021 10:23 AM

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Excargodog 10-26-2021 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3314303)


laugh and the world laughs with you,
weep and you weep alone.

-Ella Wheeler Wilcox


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BobbyLeeSwagger 10-26-2021 05:55 PM

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Excargodog 10-26-2021 06:04 PM

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phly 10-27-2021 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3314041)
NK wants no part of CA employment law.

Who would this matter? We already have commuters from California so how is it different? We'd be only locally employing a handful of staff to run the base.

Halon1211 10-27-2021 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by phly (Post 3314763)
Who would this matter? We already have commuters from California so how is it different? We'd be only locally employing a handful of staff to run the base.


there is a lot of requirements for crew members based in California. Example; they are required to be given “meal breaks”.

dualinput 10-27-2021 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3314835)
there is a lot of requirements for crew members based in California. Example; they are required to be given “meal breaks”.

Simple every LAX pairing will have a 2hr sit each day. You act like other airlines aren’t running bases in California. It’s not rocket science.

Halon1211 10-27-2021 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3314930)
Simple every LAX pairing will have a 2hr sit each day. You act like other airlines aren’t running bases in California. It’s not rocket science.

I think you meant to direct that comment at meep or phly. I don’t care what Spirit does as far as a LAX base is concerned

chihuahua 11-02-2021 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3313149)
These things shift a bit, depending on when you finish training, which base upgrades or FO growth goes to, and how many people are happy in base when you make your bid in training.

In other words theoretically any base is possible out of training, while FLL or MCO is most likely, DTW, ORD, and ACY are not impossible. DFW or LAS is least likely.

Wait, so the Florida bases are actually going junior? That's amazing if true. Is this something that is going to continue because all the new planes are being added into Florida? Are there people who actually want DTW, ORD, ACY? Those three look like a list of bases that would be heavily junior at most airlines.

flyingpuma1 11-02-2021 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3317525)
Wait, so the Florida bases are actually going junior? That's amazing if true. .

It's true and from my recollection Florida bases have usually gone jr.

Fah2 11-02-2021 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3317525)
Wait, so the Florida bases are actually going junior? That's amazing if true. Is this something that is going to continue because all the new planes are being added into Florida? Are there people who actually want DTW, ORD, ACY? Those three look like a list of bases that would be heavily junior at most airlines.

ACY was perennially the junior most FO base for a long time, and it was almost a rite of passage to do a month or two there after initial before rotating out to another base. Lately there are enough people who want to be there.

Lots of people here live in Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin etc and DTW and ORD are commutable.

Lauderdale is the biggest base in the system, and Orlando has had a lot of recent growth so they usually have vacancy and go junior.

Things shift around, and 6-12 months from now could be very different

VIRotate 11-03-2021 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3317525)
Wait, so the Florida bases are actually going junior? That's amazing if true. Is this something that is going to continue because all the new planes are being added into Florida? Are there people who actually want DTW, ORD, ACY? Those three look like a list of bases that would be heavily junior at most airlines.

FLL is pretty junior. MCO not really as much. Though you can pretty much hold any base by the end of training.

Fah2 11-03-2021 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by VIRotate (Post 3317747)
FLL is pretty junior. MCO not really as much. Though you can pretty much hold any base by the end of training.

Getting into any base at NK has never been a problem because we have one aircraft type.

What happens once you are in that base is another story.

Cyio 11-03-2021 07:20 AM

Just keep coming to LAS if you are a new hire. Trust me it’s the best base.

BusBoi 11-10-2021 06:29 AM

Speaking of seniority, where can I find the seniority list? I can't find it anymore on the ALPA website.

MGuy 11-10-2021 06:52 AM

Alpa app under mec documents.

BusBoi 11-10-2021 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by MGuy (Post 3320922)
Alpa app under mec documents.

Thanks buddy

Erjpilot90 11-18-2021 04:41 PM

How junior is Detroit? Regional FO currently…3000 total time, half in turbine SIC 121. Chances of getting a call?

MCDUmanipulator 11-18-2021 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Erjpilot90 (Post 3324681)
How junior is Detroit? Regional FO currently…3000 total time, half in turbine SIC 121. Chances of getting a call?

zero until you apply. Then it’s anoyones guess.

gflann 11-18-2021 05:26 PM

You’ll probably get DTW on your first vacancy bid

JulesWinfield 11-18-2021 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Erjpilot90 (Post 3324681)
How junior is Detroit? Regional FO currently…3000 total time, half in turbine SIC 121. Chances of getting a call?

You’re totally competitive. DTW is pretty junior. If you know someone here, get an internal rec.

Chunk 11-18-2021 10:04 PM

DTW was *the* junior base on last month’s award


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