Pay in the first few years
 

I searched but couldn’t find any current info. I’m looking for what average pay would be for the first three years for a commuter.

Thanks in advance.

“I searched but couldn’t find any current info”

Which info were you unable to find? Can you be a little more specific? Our training pay, pay rates, monthly guarantee, bases and premium trip info are all very recently discussed in the first 5 threads.

do you have a specific question I can answer

I think he wants the double-secret Level VII Pay numbers. Obviously we can't tell him, hence double-secret.

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The pay scales are literally right here on APC... So not sure how you didn't find the info you're looking for? You'll be in training for two months, then year one pay at 72 hrs MMG. You can do a rough estimate from there.

Its the standard "I know guarantee is 72 hours but what can I REALLY make..."

You can buy make a Cadillac a month. They don't tell you it's a 99 Catera but you can paint them all different colors and start your own demolition derby league.

And with a little bit of opentime you can add a Cimarron.

Bro-Ham...

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Clicked on a few threads
What I was looking for wasn’t in the first few pages and I got bored

I have a new life goal now.

Thanks for the responses. I read the first few threads and found mostly what I was looking for. Sorry I’m coming from 91/135 and read so much on this site about what pay is ‘really’ like. Will keep reading the threads. Thanks again.

We can be a tough crowd. How much money is really dependent on way too many factors to answer without knowing your whole life situation. Pay for a commuter from California will look different that a commuter living in Alabama. Best advice is to do the math on 72 guarantee and factor in your tax rates. That's a baseline without per diem, working extra, etc. That's icing on the cake.

Quick and dirty way to factor your pay is to take the hourly and multiply it by 1000. So first year will be around 60k, but training pay is only $1700/mo for 2-3 months, so plan on significantly less than that. Maybe 45k or so. 2nd year should be north of 100k.

If it helps, I am a first year commuter, with an average commute. I have a family of 4 on the HSA high deductible plan, not to many other extras taken out.

My bi-monthly checks outside of training come out to between $1500-$1700 each in the bank.

Obviously I am on reserve and have very limited ways to earn extra. I’m hoping 2nd year is better in that regards.

First year pay is embarrassingly low - especially considering training pay - not even up to parity with F9. That needs to be fixed in the next contract. But in fairness, you are forgetting the 401k DC which you will get eventually. Doesn’t help a great deal today I’ll admit, but it’s still about $6k the first year. Of course, F9 has that too - and a higher hour guarantee.

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