Thanks as well! If you read over on other threads, some are saying the ability to drop trips naturally will depend on attrition and the net number of pilots coming in. So the pessimist in me wanted to know what the absolute minimum days off a line would contain. I hope I’m wrong and we never go down to those limits

Absolute min days off as a line holder is 13. If you are on a relief line it’s 15 days off.


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The main factor attrition would have is on seniority progression (although it would temporarily benefit a new hire today as they would likely move up the FO list a bit sooner).

The contract stipulates the company maintains a level of reserve coverage for 75% of the month in planning, which could result in more reserve lines during staffing issues, but they cannot reduce minimum days off.

New hire pilots this month are 61 spaces closer to a line than when they started class.

The presumption moving forward is that anyone who comes here 1) wants to be here and 2) understands that some pilots here may decide to move on. If Spirit is your goal it’s arguably a good time to join.

In the last 12 months, life for line holding captains and FOs has not changed drastically. The concern for the moment are junior captains and senior FOs who worry that a stagnation due to turnover would lengthen the time they sit reserve on the bottom of the captain list. Upgrade seniority is around 33% which is around 3-4 years (a case could be made that 1 year of that time was due to covid).

I don’t have a crystal ball, neither does anyone here. The turnover may continue for a few months, or it could fizzle out. A new hire today could see a bump in seniority and 3 years down the road we have a new contract and all this is a distant memory.

Sort of... Talk to some of the FO's on the bottom of the bidding list each month depending on the base. Little movement as people below them move on. From the time that Nav Blue opens vs. closes it's a different number.