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I’d like to congratulate some FOs
Chaos creates cash. Never been a better time in the right seat to capitalize on the low staffing and meltdowns. Looks like almost all of the premium pay going out is FOs and all bases are sharing the love. Some of the totals I’m seeing are impressive and it’s not just a couple it’s many. Good job! Now stop complaining about meltdowns
I would like to know how one person can be on both the MCO and LGA Y list though. Can’t exactly report to both of those within 3hrs |
Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3402692)
Chaos creates cash. Never been a better time in the right seat to capitalize on the low staffing and meltdowns. Looks like almost all of the premium pay going out is FOs and all bases are sharing the love. Some of the totals I’m seeing are impressive and it’s not just a couple it’s many. Good job! Now stop complaining about meltdowns
I would like to know how one person can be on both the MCO and LGA Y list though. Can’t exactly report to both of those within 3hrs |
Originally Posted by B200 Hawk
(Post 3402856)
2 homes maybe? Don't have to pick up your phone, listen to VM and decide if that pairing fits your location.
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Whoring one's self out to help this company float, I love it!
Plan on being an X Lister ***** in LAS when I get displaced, |
Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
(Post 3402956)
Whoring one's self out to help this company float, I love it!
Plan on being an X Lister ***** in LAS when I get displaced, |
I credited 153 hours in March. Looking forward to that 4/15 cash!!
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3402874)
Yup, nothing contractual says they can’t. Just can’t pick the phone up if they call.
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Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3402692)
Chaos creates cash. Never been a better time in the right seat to capitalize on the low staffing and meltdowns. Looks like almost all of the premium pay going out is FOs and all bases are sharing the love. Some of the totals I’m seeing are impressive and it’s not just a couple it’s many. Good job! Now stop complaining about meltdowns
I would like to know how one person can be on both the MCO and LGA Y list though. Can’t exactly report to both of those within 3hrs |
Originally Posted by IamEssential
(Post 3403283)
Okay? Well at first year pay I've only accepted one out of ten requests this year, and that was only because it had an overnight I wanted. Otherwise I'd rather enjoy my days off than premium at first year pay.
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Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3403512)
It was actually a congratulatory comment not a dig. Get it when you can. It’s the best time in this company’s history for the FOs to get this much premium. Captains not so much but can enjoy a green grid.
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
(Post 3403537)
and my post wasnt a dig on you but rather a commentary on the company's horrible first year compensation when compared to other places in today's market.
The rules have changed. Companies are going to survive or fold on FO retention and overall QOL. Read the AS thread if you think otherwise. They ARE (technically) a legacy and a 12 year CA is pulling $266 (+15.5% DC) on a contract already up for renewal. But they are struggling to staff and retain at the FO level with a first year FO pay of only $93 (+15.5%). They aren’t losing senior CAs (except to retirement), not even the VX guys that are bitter about the JFK closure, but they sure are FOs. Even WN has identified that their FOs aren’t competitive and they’ll need to address that in the next contract. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3403564)
Which, God-willing, a JCBA with B6 will take care of.
The rules have changed. Companies are going to survive or fold on FO retention and overall QOL. Read the AS thread if you think otherwise. They ARE (technically) a legacy and a 12 year CA is pulling $266 (+15.5% DC) on a contract already up for renewal. But they are struggling to staff and retain at the FO level with a first year FO pay of only $93 (+15.5%). They aren’t losing senior CAs (except to retirement), not even the VX guys that are bitter about the JFK closure, but they sure are FOs. Even WN has identified that their FOs aren’t competitive and they’ll need to address that in the next contract. |
Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3403764)
We won’t see a JCBA with either company for a couple years. As we know from the last two years, a lot can change in that timeline.
So just to clarify. You think they would spend all this time selling this to investors, shareholders and the federal government, eventually, possibly getting it approved only to not be able to combine for a few years because of a JCBA? |
Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 3403784)
So just to clarify. You think they would spend all this time selling this to investors, shareholders and the federal government, eventually, possibly getting it approved only to not be able to combine for a few years because of a JCBA?
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 3403784)
So just to clarify. You think they would spend all this time selling this to investors, shareholders and the federal government, eventually, possibly getting it approved only to not be able to combine for a few years because of a JCBA?
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
(Post 3403821)
thats not what he wrote. He said we don’t see one for a couple years. He didn’t say “after the transaction is complete”
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 3403843)
Yes, he said we won’t see one for a couple of years. Which means if the transaction is completed by the end of this year, which is what both airlines have said they are shooting for, then that won’t combine for another year, year and a half because of the JCBA? And then it will take a little after that to actually finish combining. Out of curiosity, and I’ll have to look it up because I don’t know, how long after approval of AS/VA did they have a JCBA?
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 3403843)
Yes, he said we won’t see one for a couple of years. Which means if the transaction is completed by the end of this year, which is what both airlines have said they are shooting for, then that won’t combine for another year, year and a half because of the JCBA? And then it will take a little after that to actually finish combining. Out of curiosity, and I’ll have to look it up because I don’t know, how long after approval of AS/VA did they have a JCBA?
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3403564)
The rules have changed. Companies are going to survive or fold on FO retention and overall QOL. Read the AS thread if you think otherwise. They ARE (technically) a legacy and
a 12 year CA is pulling $266 (+15.5% DC) on a contract already up for renewal. But they are struggling to staff and retain at the FO level with a first year FO pay of only $93 (+15.5%). They aren’t losing senior CAs (except to retirement), not even the VX guys that are bitter about the JFK closure, but they sure are FOs. Even WN has identified that their FOs aren’t competitive and they’ll need to address that in the next contract. |
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