Rebasing FOs
 

My entire new hire class as well as the classes ahead of mine are having to go to recurrent 4 months early because of FO staffing, and I’ve also heard on more than one occasion the company sending fo’s to recurrent after they just went through recurrent two months prior. If your idea of fun is doing jeopardy events every three months then this place might be a good fit.

Spirits training is top notch. The best in the industry. Just be thankful for so many training events. If you fail one of your 4 yearly recurrent’s you have to stay here and can’t get hired by a legacy. Smart business if you ask me. Can’t get hired else where if you fail a yearly recurrent 3 times in one year

They pull the same shenanigans at SWA. Sick calls are an option for training events, too.

agree. Why are you Spirit new hires complaining? Take your 36k first year pay and be thankful for your job.

When was your class?

Your sims are idle enough to allow that?

They've spent millions expanding the training department. The funny thing is, they'll rebase someone and then they leave, so they hit them with initial followed by a training event within a year and then they hit the road. Great scheme we have.

Our sims….of course we own no sims. Another valued business partner is utilized with sims in cities around the country.

JetBlue could pack up our Miramar headquarters and fit all owned assets in one or two Pods.

That’s actually not true. Spirit owns at least 3 of our current sims, the third recently installed at AFG In FLL. Just because they are at AFG facilities and maintained by their techs doesn’t mean AFG owns them.

Spirit also owns several million dollars worth of full cockpit FTD’s, touch screen and door trainers. Certainly not sims, but these devices cost nearly a million each, with the FTD’s well north of that. No, we aren’t a traditional training department when compared against a legacy, but we aren’t just completely outsourcing all our training and equipment either.

Rebasing FOs
 

I’ve heard the sim ownership rumor before. There is nothing out there in writing to confirm that Spirit actually owns the simulators. I would caution against believing anything that comes from the training department. That group tends to be full of cheerleaders because none of them want the instructor gigs to end. AFG corporate info also doesn’t confirm this information and it seems to go against their stated corporate identity as specializing in dry leasing sim hours. Trying to say that Spirit has invested any significant amount of money in training or infrastructure is folly.

You could pack up the Sheltair assets into another pod. Everything this company does is focused on the cheapest, minimalist way to perform the task and yes that includes the training department.

I think sending FO’s to recurrent every three months rather than paying a seat support to do it proves that point.

I think your being generous on the number of pods, you didn’t notice the rent-a-center barcodes under the desks at Miramar? I got disconnected from a scheduler because Aaron’s came and took her desk and chair away.

Up until 3 years ago, the sims weren’t even full motion. They used to use Riddle interns to move it around like marionettes, in exchange for a seniority list position after 2 years.

We don’t outsource our instructors most importantly. That’s what matters most.

So that's what? 3 people still here after 8 months? Not sure that's going to make a dent, but hey, let's just give the new hires yet another reason to want to bail.

You would leave if you were rebased? AQP requires CA/FO pairings and FOs are cheaper to move forward. Rebase everyone for 4 months in a row or just once, 4 months early? Sounds logical and is a clever solution. The only re-basing that will expedite attrition is coming tomorrow at noon.

That has been delayed again from what I’ve been told.

I've heard murmurs of the same. A Charlie Foxtrot for sure

Isn't this about right? I was hopeful Bendo's latest email was a resignation letter, but alas just more half truths.

Think I was in a van with you once, you spoke to the van driver and attractive woman in the front seat , in “phonetic alphabet.” Wasn’t impressing anyone, actually nerdy

Was the van driver and attractive woman the same person?

In terms you would understand.......That would be a "November Oscar...."

Did a quick scan of your posts and profile. I don't think we've flown together.

Crisis averted!!!!

Don't our schedulers have to buy their own desks for their home office?

Epic performance all summer! Never mind we lost $50M. Make money or perform well. How do we do both? Clueless.