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GearedUp 12-18-2022 11:02 AM

LEC 18 Rep Votes Yes for TA but leaving 4 DAL
 
Unbelievable! DW the FO Rep for 18 has a class date in January for Delta. Not only did he vote yes to send this to the pilot group, he also has been selling this Sh!t TA it in all the various Pilot chats. Dude is voting with his feet one way while selling his pilot group down the low cost River the other way. He needs to step down immedietely. If not, he needs to be recalled on his way out the door. One more example of our failed SPA Leadership! Glad I have a foot out the door myself. See you in class DW!

flyingmonkeys 12-18-2022 11:10 AM

Nk flight attendants breathing a sigh of relief though

SSlow 12-18-2022 11:25 AM

Might be worth posting this in the DL sub instead. I'm sure they would appreciate knowing who's coming on-board so they can keep him away from their union positions in the future.

Poppachubby 12-18-2022 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by GearedUp (Post 3554758)
Unbelievable! DW the FO Rep for 18 has a class date in January for Delta. Not only did he vote yes to send this to the pilot group, he also has been selling this Sh!t TA it in all the various Pilot chats. Dude is voting with his feet one way while selling his pilot group down the low cost River the other way. He needs to step down immedietely. If not, he needs to be recalled on his way out the door. One more example of our failed SPA Leadership! Glad I have a foot out the door myself. See you in class DW!


Blah.......Blah.......Blah! If your leaving, why do you even care?! Maybe you should change your handle to "workedup"!

fumeevented 12-18-2022 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by GearedUp (Post 3554758)
Unbelievable! DW the FO Rep for 18 has a class date in January for Delta. Not only did he vote yes to send this to the pilot group, he also has been selling this Sh!t TA it in all the various Pilot chats. Dude is voting with his feet one way while selling his pilot group down the low cost River the other way. He needs to step down immedietely. If not, he needs to be recalled on his way out the door. One more example of our failed SPA Leadership! Glad I have a foot out the door myself. See you in class DW!

He should have stepped down the minute he got his class date. Blatant conflict of interest. Don't they ask you the meaning of integrity in the DL interview?

SpeedBrakes 12-18-2022 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Poppachubby (Post 3554789)
Blah.......Blah.......Blah! If your leaving, why do you even care?! Maybe you should change your handle to "workedup"!


Many of us on here are not leaving, so others do care. DW should step down, and if he doesn't, Union should put out a statement about this. Tainting the voting process around here with an already sh|tty TA.
Definite conflict of interest. Cmon' D.W. you are better than this (so we thought).

GearedUp 12-18-2022 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Poppachubby (Post 3554789)
Blah.......Blah.......Blah! If your leaving, why do you even care?! Maybe you should change your handle to "workedup"!

Because he is a rep, and his vote with his feet contracdicts the vote he took with the TA. He should have proxied his vote. He no longer can represent his pilots well if he has one foot already out the door to Delta.

CincoDeMayo 12-18-2022 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by GearedUp (Post 3554930)
Because he is a rep, and his vote with his feet contracdicts the vote he took with the TA. He should have proxied his vote. He no longer can represent his pilots well if he has one foot already out the door to Delta.

While you’re calling for a removal of the NC while you currently have a class date for DAL as well.

Ok, got it

NKSpilot 12-18-2022 04:04 PM

Admirable that a guy would put in time and energy to help his fellow pilots to the end.

Just because you don't like the TA doesn't make it okay to **** on someone's character.

Going to another Alpa carrier no less. Seriously??

JulesWinfield 12-18-2022 04:08 PM

I don’t see a conflict of interest.

GearedUp 12-18-2022 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3554946)
While you’re calling for a removal of the NC while you currently have a class date for DAL as well.

Ok, got it

Why do you defend last place?

fumeevented 12-19-2022 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3554953)
I don’t see a conflict of interest.

What if he was never a spirit pilot? What if our union sent us an email from a Delta pilot telling us we need to vote a certain way? How would you feel about that?

CincoDeMayo 12-19-2022 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by GearedUp (Post 3555082)
Why do you defend last place?

Why do you chastise a rep for voting on the way out while you create threads telling NK pilots to replace the NC, while you’re on your way out?

I hope he is your sim partner.

You are going to Delta, cool. You can come down from the ledge now, we at NK can make our own decisions going forward without your “help”.

GearedUp 12-19-2022 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3555146)
Why do you chastise a rep for voting on the way out while you create threads telling NK pilots to replace the NC, while you’re on your way out?

I hope he is your sim partner.

You are going to Delta, cool. You can come down from the ledge now, we at NK can make our own decisions going forward without your “help”.

So the fact I am encouraging us to hold the line and get a better deal, all while waiting for my Delta class, you have a problem with. But the guy who is serving you a Sh!t sanwhich, also while headed off to Delta, you are ok with? Again, I’m just a regular old Line Captain. He is an ALPA Rep with clearly a conflict of insterest. But keep defending him, keep defending the NC, it works so well and has done wonders for the airline.

GearedUp 12-19-2022 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3555114)
What if he was never a spirit pilot? What if our union sent us an email from a Delta pilot telling us we need to vote a certain way? How would you feel about that?

Exactly. DW wants to leave this place to go get his industry leading TA at DAL, all while he votes not once but twice for a rock bottom TA here as he heads out the door.

JulesWinfield 12-19-2022 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3555114)
What if he was never a spirit pilot? What if our union sent us an email from a Delta pilot telling us we need to vote a certain way? How would you feel about that?

If anything, a Delta pilot would want a better deal for us, because it strengthens their position. Anyways, your scenario is made up. The reality is that he’s a seniority list pilot and hasn’t left the company yet. Something could fall through and he could stay. He has every reason to make this place better on his way out.

CincoDeMayo 12-19-2022 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by GearedUp (Post 3555170)
So the fact I am encouraging us to hold the line and get a better deal, all while waiting for my Delta class, you have a problem with. But the guy who is serving you a Sh!t sanwhich, also while headed off to Delta, you are ok with? Again, I’m just a regular old Line Captain. He is an ALPA Rep with clearly a conflict of insterest. But keep defending him, keep defending the NC, it works so well and has done wonders for the airline.

What a hysterical fool you sound like. “Keep supporting…keep supporting”. No, I was pointing out your own hypocrisy. I don’t care if he voted or abstained. He is still a rep, as you are still a Spirit pilot, he has the ability to vote. If he has abstained, it still passes the MEC and heads to a TA vote.

I’ll say that again, if he had abstained, it still goes to the pilots to vote. So nice misplaced rage there from you.

You’re acting like a clown. Be happy you’re taking your behind to Delta and starting a new chapter that you feel will be better. Screaming on a Spirit forum on why pilots need to do something, while you wonder if you’ll be on the 320 or 220 in ATL, is highly hypocritical and laughable.

Again, NK pilots will vote how we feel to take the process going forward and that’s how it will be, Yes or No, the majority will decide.

You will get your chance to cast a No vote for a TA you’ll never see, so you should feel proud for that.

SpeedBrakes 01-06-2023 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3554953)
I don’t see a conflict of interest.

How can it not be

symbian simian 01-06-2023 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3566240)
How can it not be

He wants the best for all of us at NK, because that is what we elected him for, or he wants the best for all of us at NK, because the rising tide theory......
Which of those are a conflict of interest?

The fact that you don't think this TA is good enough has nothing to do with either.

symbian simian 01-06-2023 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3555114)
What if he was never a spirit pilot? What if our union sent us an email from a Delta pilot telling us we need to vote a certain way? How would you feel about that?

I wouldn't give a cr@p, because that DL pilot was not a part of the NK union. Way to get of the reservation....

MCDUmanipulator 01-07-2023 08:35 AM

So many of you are straight up disgusting people.

Stryker172 01-07-2023 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3566584)
So many of you are straight up disgusting people.

Truth

filler

SpeedBrakes 01-18-2023 08:48 AM

Well it seems official.
DW supported and helped sell us a pile of sh|t and left.l for Delta.

CincoDeMayo 01-18-2023 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574125)
Well it seems official.
DW supported and helped sell us a pile of sh|t and left.l for Delta.

Feel better to get that burden off your chest?

SpeedBrakes 01-18-2023 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3574146)
Feel better to get that burden off your chest?

Not really. Stuck with this POS now and don’t like other smirking when they sit in Jumpseat knowing our “pilot group” voted on this

it’s improper to be voting on a TA for the future of this pilot group if youve got one foot out the door. Pilots vote with their feet and it’s telling that a rep, who was also privy to inside info that the rest of us weren’t, decided to leave rather than build our legacy here.

Excargodog 01-18-2023 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574206)
Not really. Stuck with this POS now and don’t like other smirking when they sit in Jumpseat knowing our “pilot group” voted on this

it’s improper to be voting on a TA for the future of this pilot group if youve got one foot out the door. Pilots vote with their feet and it’s telling that a rep, who was also privy to inside info that the rest of us weren’t, decided to leave rather than build our legacy here.

So had he been the single MEC guy to vote against it, do you think that would have changed the 69-31 outcome?

CincoDeMayo 01-18-2023 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574206)
Not really. Stuck with this POS now and don’t like other smirking when they sit in Jumpseat knowing our “pilot group” voted on this

it’s improper to be voting on a TA for the future of this pilot group if youve got one foot out the door. Pilots vote with their feet and it’s telling that a rep, who was also privy to inside info that the rest of us weren’t, decided to leave rather than build our legacy here.

Cool story, so if he abstained, it still goes to the pilot group and passes at 69%. Nothing changes, can’t blame the passing of the TA on him, he isn’t a scapegoat

Sorry you feel jumpseaters are smirking at you.

Excargodog 01-18-2023 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3574208)
So had he been the single MEC guy to vote against it, do you think that would have changed the 69-31 outcome?


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3574211)
Cool story, so if he abstained, it still goes to the pilot group and passes at 69%. Nothing changes, can’t blame the passing of the TA on him, he isn’t a scapegoat

Sorry you feel jumpseaters are smirking at you.

Oh Lord, I’m starting to think like Mayo…:eek:

CincoDeMayo 01-18-2023 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3574213)
Oh Lord, I’m starting to think like Mayo…:eek:

Your evolution is slow, but steady. No longer wallowing in the primordial ooze of “first yer pay”. 😄

FlyGuy2002 01-18-2023 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574206)
Not really. Stuck with this POS now and don’t like other smirking when they sit in Jumpseat knowing our “pilot group” voted on this

it’s improper to be voting on a TA for the future of this pilot group if youve got one foot out the door. Pilots vote with their feet and it’s telling that a rep, who was also privy to inside info that the rest of us weren’t, decided to leave rather than build our legacy here.

you’re not stuck. Delta is hiring. Delta.com

ZooKeeper 01-18-2023 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3574206)
Not really. Stuck with this POS now and don’t like other smirking when they sit in Jumpseat knowing our “pilot group” voted on this

it’s improper to be voting on a TA for the future of this pilot group if youve got one foot out the door. Pilots vote with their feet and it’s telling that a rep, who was also privy to inside info that the rest of us weren’t, decided to leave rather than build our legacy here.

man Cole, your a miserable person.

FlyGuy2002 01-18-2023 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 3574354)
man Cole, your a miserable person.

is that CB ? DFW ? He’s always been miserable.. lives in a tax free/cheap state and yet 300k makes him miserable ..

RonnyK320 01-18-2023 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 3574354)
man Cole, your a miserable person.

*you're........

Noisecanceller 01-18-2023 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 3574354)
man Cole, your a miserable person.

This is an anonymous forum. Like anyone’s opinion or not you shouldn’t be using names. Anyone’s true identity is also complete speculation so it shouldn’t be stated as fact.

Carl LaFong 01-19-2023 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002 (Post 3574357)
is that CB ? DFW ? He’s always been miserable.. lives in a tax free/cheap state and yet 300k makes him miserable ..

This guy? Did you see his pathetic post on the B6\NK Facebook merger page? “We suck, and deserve to be stapled”. Someone should take his devices away.

SpeedBrakes 01-19-2023 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3574530)
This is an anonymous forum. Like anyone’s opinion or not you shouldn’t be using names. Anyone’s true identity is also complete speculation so it shouldn’t be stated as fact.

Not Cole, sorry to disappoint Sherlock Holmes over there


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