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Bluedriver 01-19-2023 01:07 PM

Spirit just sold 29 aircraft.
 
Spirit just sold 29 Airbuses...

Spirit Airlines (NYSE:SAVE) disclosed an agreement to sell 29 unencumbered Airbus aircraft to a Florida-based aircraft leasing firm on Thursday. The Miami-based airline said that 29 A319ceo aircraft powered with V2500 engines will be sold to an affiliate of Gryphon Aviation Leasing for a price between approximately $152M and $201M. SEC filings indicate that deliveries will begin taking place by the close of Q1 and will conclude by Q3 2024. The first 14 aircraft will be delivered during the 2023 calendar year, with the remainder due for delivery in 2024.

Tranquility 01-19-2023 01:13 PM

Must be a different Spirit Airlines, we’re based in Miramar…. :D

Douglas9 01-19-2023 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3575000)
Spirit just sold 29 Airbuses...

Spirit Airlines (NYSE:SAVE) disclosed an agreement to sell 29 unencumbered Airbus aircraft to a Florida-based aircraft leasing firm on Thursday. The Miami-based airline said that 29 A319ceo aircraft powered with V2500 engines will be sold to an affiliate of Gryphon Aviation Leasing for a price between approximately $152M and $201M. SEC filings indicate that deliveries will begin taking place by the close of Q1 and will conclude by Q3 2024. The first 14 aircraft will be delivered during the 2023 calendar year, with the remainder due for delivery in 2024.


Good! I won’t have to reset VHF 3 circuit breaker anymore.

Bluedriver 01-19-2023 01:33 PM

Next step the A319NEO orders will be converted to A320/321NEO, more likely A321NEO aircraft.

sioux8ships 01-19-2023 02:02 PM

So we net 19 new ac this year now. Should help their attrition issue and maybe raise utilization.

RiddleEagle18 01-19-2023 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3575028)
So we net 19 new ac this year now. Should help their attrition issue and maybe raise utilization.


Does that account for the 320 line being delayed several months.

sioux8ships 01-19-2023 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3575040)
Does that account for the 320 line being delayed several months.

Nope, so now less than 19. Even better news!

Excargodog 01-19-2023 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3575028)
So we net 19 new ac this year now. Should help their attrition issue and maybe raise utilization.

Unless it’s just to raise liquidity and they lease them right back. Sale leasebacks are fairly common.

https://i.ibb.co/DKmHt0F/E6558-AF5-0...C2-D798826.jpg

rickair7777 01-19-2023 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3575060)
Unless it’s just to raise liquidity and they lease them right back. Sale leasebacks are fairly common.

That would be my first guess.

RiddleEagle18 01-19-2023 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3575060)
Unless it’s just to raise liquidity and they lease them right back. Sale leasebacks are fairly common.

https://i.ibb.co/DKmHt0F/E6558-AF5-0...C2-D798826.jpg

go read the SEC filing



The Company expects to remove 14 and 15 A319ceo aircraft from its operating fleet in 2023 and 2024, respectively. The remaining two A319ceo aircraft in the Company’s operating fleet, which are leased, are anticipated to be returned to the lessor upon lease expiration in 2025.”

Excargodog 01-19-2023 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3575063)
go read the SEC filing



The Company expects to remove 14 and 15 A319ceo aircraft from its operating fleet in 2023 and 2024, respectively. The remaining two A319ceo aircraft in the Company’s operating fleet, which are leased, are anticipated to be returned to the lessor upon lease expiration in 2025.”

That would seem definitive.

Jimdunbar 01-19-2023 06:24 PM

And so it begins

Excargodog 01-19-2023 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jimdunbar (Post 3575188)
And so it begins

What begins? You knew that those aircraft were the oldest in the fleet. And that if JB still wants 319s (which they have said they don’t) they would accept the 319NEOs NK has on order, rather than changing them to other 32xNEO variants, which they have announced their intention to do. Why not get rid of your least efficient and most maintenance intensive aircraft if you are having such attrition problems you are unable to fully staff the fleet you have. Especially since JB has no desire to have them in the inventory when they take over.

Ed Force One 01-19-2023 10:03 PM

Shoot, when I was hired on 2013 those aircraft were already sold to United. And yet here they are.

More importantly, does this raise the 321 override? (In 2024, of course...)

putzin 01-20-2023 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 3575264)
Shoot, when I was hired on 2013 those aircraft were already sold to United. And yet here they are.

More importantly, does this raise the 321 override? (In 2024, of course...)

So you're saying we're getting another "small bite"? 💥

JulesWinfield 01-20-2023 02:58 AM

Attrition problem solved. Utilization problem solved.

Noisecanceller 01-20-2023 04:37 AM

Yes it should increase the 321 override. Also going to slow movement to a crawl for mid pack FOs and Captains. Hiring will just be for bottom churn

symbian simian 01-20-2023 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3575317)
Yes it should increase the 321 override. Also going to slow movement to a crawl for mid pack FOs and Captains. Hiring will just be for bottom churn

Movement was always going to slow down, just a question of when. 15%+ growth per year is only possible for a small company. And without significant retirements that means very little progression. I never expected the growth to continue this long, and I am a little old to start over, but have been telling everyone younger than 45 with less 5 years they should really look around.....

David Puddy 01-20-2023 06:40 AM

Welcome to the A220-300 and the 21st century! Even with the new engines, you will never want to fly a dinosaur A320/21 again!!!! ;)

Halon1211 01-20-2023 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 3575398)
Welcome to the A220-300 and the 21st century! Even with the new engines, you will never want to fly a dinosaur A320/21 again!!!! ;)

I don’t care to fly your wannabe “Airbus” 220.

I don’t get shiny jet syndrome…

Lincoln Osiris 01-20-2023 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3575538)
I don’t care to fly your wannabe “Airbus” 220.

I don’t get shiny jet syndrome…

I swear spirit could buy used DC-9's and you would get a boner and tell everyone how amazing it is.

Halon1211 01-20-2023 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3575540)
I swear spirit could buy used DC-9's and you would get a boner and tell everyone how amazing it is.


I actually wood.

SoFloFlyer 01-20-2023 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3575569)
I actually wood.

Ba Dum Tss

Bluedriver 01-20-2023 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 3575398)
Welcome to the A220-300 and the 21st century! Even with the new engines, you will never want to fly a dinosaur A320/21 again!!!! ;)

I'm sure you're at least a bit joking, but I've flown both and miss the A321. Unless you like to know all the maintenance techs in the system on a first name basis...

putzin 01-20-2023 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3575818)
I'm sure you're at least a bit joking, but I've flown both and miss the A321. Unless you like to know all the maintenance techs in the system on a first name basis...

He's not. We're pretty sure he has a 220 tat on the small of his back.

Bluedriver 01-20-2023 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3575871)
He's not. We're pretty sure he has a 220 tat on the small of his back.

Tramp-stamp, pilot-dork style.

embraerjetpilot 01-22-2023 04:01 AM

I wonder if there was any consultation with JB about this before they did it? Or any requirement to do so?

Excargodog 01-22-2023 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot (Post 3576738)
I wonder if there was any consultation with JB about this before they did it? Or any requirement to do so?

I think it was pretty clear that JB had little interest in 319s, what with their large 220 order, and certainly no interest in elderly ceos since part of the reason to purchase NK was a more rapid update of their own fleet with younger aircraft. I would be greatly surprised if the NK319NEO order isn’t converted to 320 variants - most believed that was going to happen even if NK hadn’t been bought. Or even if they had been bought by F9 which has no particular interest in 319s either. But given that JB is eliminating E190s from their fleet in favor of 220s, I’m sure JB is just as happy to see the 319ceos go away.


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