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GlorifiedBusDVR 04-09-2023 02:25 PM

Chances of exceeding minimum guarantee yr 1
 
Curious as to thoughts on exceeding minimum guarantee as a year one FO based in FLL. I understand it is likely impacted by time on reserve, etc. However, what are your thoughts on ability to break monthly minimum year one. Assume i started OE today.

BananaHammock 04-10-2023 09:06 AM

For financial planning purposes - ZER0

JulesWinfield 04-10-2023 09:38 AM

If you bid reserve strategically, you can get x list pretty easily. Front or backload reserve and waive the 4 days off to give yourself a big chunk of time off to sit on the x list. Once you’re a line holder, you can definitely credit more.

Justabusdriver1 04-10-2023 02:52 PM

Agree with banana never financially plan for more than minimum. Looking to prove financials to someone for a loan of some kind? Best you can/should do is minimum.

However the chances of breaking minimum would 100% be on you, your availability and willingness to work. On reserve you’ll rarely credit more than minimum from reserve but depending on your schedule and time of the year/environmental factors there may be premium to pickup. Which is always above mmg. Once you’re a line holder it’s 100% on you. Work for straight pay and each 50-100% above mmg or take your chance with getting called for premium and working very little.

Bluediver 04-10-2023 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3622071)
Agree with banana never financially plan for more than minimum. Looking to prove financials to someone for a loan of some kind? Best you can/should do is minimum.

However the chances of breaking minimum would 100% be on you, your availability and willingness to work. On reserve you’ll rarely credit more than minimum from reserve but depending on your schedule and time of the year/environmental factors there may be premium to pickup. Which is always above mmg. Once you’re a line holder it’s 100% on you. Work for straight pay and each 50-100% above mmg or take your chance with getting called for premium and working very little.


I asked ChatGPT and this is what it said.

Your financial planning should be based on reserve guarantee and that alone. If I were a magic eight ball and not a stellar AI I would say “Cannot predict now.”

PossibleDeviation 04-11-2023 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by GlorifiedBusDVR (Post 3621568)
Curious as to thoughts on exceeding minimum guarantee as a year one FO based in FLL. I understand it is likely impacted by time on reserve, etc. However, what are your thoughts on ability to break monthly minimum year one. Assume i started OE today.

As others have said plan for guarantee for financial planning.

While on reserve you can list for x/y if you want to get additional flying. If you're willing to work on some days off you'll have the opportunity. Once you're a line holder you can work as much or as little as you want. With how things are today the chances of crediting over guarantee are 100% if you want it.

putzin 04-11-2023 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3622236)
I asked ChatGPT and this is what it said.

Your financial planning should be based on reserve guarantee and that alone. If I were a magic eight ball and not a stellar AI I would say “Cannot predict now.”

How does it feel about seniority integration, RS or DoH?

Bluediver 04-11-2023 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3622431)
How does it feel about seniority integration, RS or DoH?

ChatGPT and the Magic Eight ball both say “Ask again later.”

Czpilot 04-11-2023 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3622370)
As others have said plan for guarantee for financial planning.

While on reserve you can list for x/y if you want to get additional flying. If you're willing to work on some days off you'll have the opportunity. Once you're a line holder you can work as much or as little as you want. With how things are today the chances of crediting over guarantee are 100% if you want it.

How long it takes to hold a line ?

havoste 04-11-2023 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Czpilot (Post 3622608)
How long it takes to hold a line ?

From date of hire-
IAH: 6 months (probably will increase)
LAS: 7 months
Others: 8 months-1 year

SoFloFlyer 04-11-2023 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3622071)
Agree with banana never financially plan for more than minimum. Looking to prove financials to someone for a loan of some kind? Best you can/should do is minimum.

However the chances of breaking minimum would 100% be on you, your availability and willingness to work. On reserve you’ll rarely credit more than minimum from reserve but depending on your schedule and time of the year/environmental factors there may be premium to pickup. Which is always above mmg. Once you’re a line holder it’s 100% on you. Work for straight pay and each 50-100% above mmg or take your chance with getting called for premium and working very little.

Busdriver is right. I worked my tail off when I was on a relief line. I knew Reserve would be hit or miss. People on reserve can break MMG, but it depends on your reserve period and how many days off you have clumped together to be able to flying premium trips. Also, the beginning of the month has a lot of premium flying for some reason. Bidding the first 3 days of the month off and wait for premium flying is something people tend to do.

kevoctf16 04-17-2023 10:17 PM

What’s best guess time for new hire to hold ATL?

Justabusdriver1 04-18-2023 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by kevoctf16 (Post 3625701)
What’s best guess time for new hire to hold ATL?

Without lookin at actual seniority lists and going off people in my class 6-8 months after hire.

SoFloFlyer 04-18-2023 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by kevoctf16 (Post 3625701)
What’s best guess time for new hire to hold ATL?

Someone in the October class finally got ATL in May. YMMV


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