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CincoDeMayo 09-06-2023 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by NevadaJack (Post 3693165)
Lol

So what did I say that was a issue?

I can be all about the flying and friendly without chugging the proverbial kool aid

Going in eyes wide open is frowned upon or something?

You are constantly overcompensating from your clear insecurities you have towards 121. You’re considering the 121 world; a pilot responds who has flown both and says it more relaxed and a reason is you don’t have to cater to the owner, and your response is typical snark where you compare an FBO to a 121 terminal. I’m glad you like organizing newspapers and breaking ice open, fantastic, keep doing it.

You are exhausting, a tool, and like others have said, want nothing to do with you in a flight deck because your attitude is exhausting. You got someone named Grumpy Captain say you were too much to handle.

BeechedJet 09-06-2023 06:50 AM

Well when we got sued by the company they specifically cited this site and used it against us so yes, yes they do.

A good chunk of 121 pilots all have 91/135 experience including myself. What I learned from that was coloring outside the lines is the reason bizjets keep crashing. The get er done attitude wasn’t welcome in my cockpit and I never saw it at Spirit or my current shop. If Spirit needs planes to land unstable with tailwinds on 4,000’ strips, you’ll be the first one to be called. You have a lot of presumptions of what we do in the 121 world and it’s pretty funny. You’re not the first pilot to think they’re different or special.

nene 09-06-2023 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by NevadaJack (Post 3693090)
What isn’t true? You guys spirit, delta, etc arnt in a union? The most fancy airline (delta) doesn’t have a pilot culture made up, or majorly influenced by ex government employees?

Nevadajack,
1. I will agree you "ARNT" a good fit for Delta.

2. ALPA isn't a union, it's an association.

3. ALPA's PWA does as much to protect career pilots from themselves as it does from the company.

4. By "ex govt employees" you mean those who volunteered to serve their country and potentially be put in harms way for your freedom? Your welcome!

5. More than 1/2 of Delta pilots (probably more) have been hired since 2013 and far less than 1/2 of those have been military.

6. By "majorly influenced" you mean try and run as close as possible to an on-time, safe, dependable operation that customers will pay a premium to use and allow everyone to enjoy a profit, than I guess yes, as is just about every airline out there unless they wish to go out of business.

7. By your comments, you appear to place a premium on the carefree, unregulated, unpredictable ways of flying in the part 91/135 world. Ironically, you probably would have enjoyed flying in the military. They instill a sense of safety and responsibility, as there (at least in the Navy) you are much more "on your own" in places all over the world.

8. Hope you can find a place where you can work at running a safe, dependable, and profitable operation so that you can earn enough to scratch the more wild side of your aviation career.

Silver02ex 09-06-2023 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by NevadaJack (Post 3693165)
Lol

So what did I say that was a issue?

I can be all about the flying and friendly without chugging the proverbial kool aid

Going in eyes wide open is frowned upon or something?


Are you serious HR folks are spending their time reading Internet forums vs talking to their existing pilots and trying to address the lower ranks retention issues?

May 2017... Quotes from APC are listed in the the docket, when the company sued us. You are naive if you think the company doesn't monitor these forms, Facebook groups, or group chats.

NevadaJack 09-06-2023 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3693173)
You are constantly overcompensating from your clear insecurities you have towards 121. You’re considering the 121 world; a pilot responds who has flown both and says it more relaxed and a reason is you don’t have to cater to the owner, and your response is typical snark where you compare an FBO to a 121 terminal. I’m glad you like organizing newspapers and breaking ice open, fantastic, keep doing it.

You are exhausting, a tool, and like others have said, want nothing to do with you in a flight deck because your attitude is exhausting. You got someone named Grumpy Captain say you were too much to handle.

Where’d you get your psychology degree bud?

And more importantly where did the paperboy hurt you lol

Dude, you toss the papers on a table, the time and effort it takes to go through the FBO and toss some ice and papers in, even if I grab a cookie is on my way through signature, it’s still way less than going through a dirty terminal even using KCM


Im a great guy to fly with, I just call BS out, making putting a friggin newspaper on a table into a Herculean task is laughable

NevadaJack 09-06-2023 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 3693178)
Well when we got sued by the company they specifically cited this site and used it against us so yes, yes they do.

A good chunk of 121 pilots all have 91/135 experience including myself. What I learned from that was coloring outside the lines is the reason bizjets keep crashing. The get er done attitude wasn’t welcome in my cockpit and I never saw it at Spirit or my current shop. If Spirit needs planes to land unstable with tailwinds on 4,000’ strips, you’ll be the first one to be called. You have a lot of presumptions of what we do in the 121 world and it’s pretty funny. You’re not the first pilot to think they’re different or special.


A airline sued a forum because internet people said mean things? Oh Lordy lol

If it’s a tailwind and a short strip I’m not doing it, I don’t care what FAA part it’s under, safe, legal, prudent, if it’s not I’m not doing it

demonrat 09-06-2023 10:34 AM

Good Lord this is painful.

CRJCapitan 09-06-2023 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by NevadaJack (Post 3693336)
A airline sued a forum because internet people said mean things? Oh Lordy lol

If it’s a tailwind and a short strip I’m not doing it, I don’t care what FAA part it’s under, safe, legal, prudent, if it’s not I’m not doing it

Were you not military? Do you really think 5000 hours of 91/135 is worth 15000 hours of 121?

And the union/pilots get sued, not the forum.

NevadaJack 09-06-2023 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by CRJCapitan (Post 3693396)
Were you not military? Do you really think 5000 hours of 91/135 is worth 15000 hours of 121?

And the union/pilots get sued, not the forum.

They sued pilots of saying mean things on the internet?


15000 most of it sitting two crew way up in the FLs, yeah I don’t personally think it’s as impressive as other areas of flying
I jet at the same speeds and altitudes of 121 guys, aside from the departure and arrival into the field, it’s mostly mind numbing

But again, airlines eventually pay well and have a good retirement, everything is a trade off

Sorry I don’t think 121 is better in every aspect, it’s not, 135/91 isn’t better in every aspect ether

Silver02ex 09-06-2023 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by NevadaJack (Post 3693336)
A airline sued a forum because internet people said mean things? Oh Lordy lol

If it’s a tailwind and a short strip I’m not doing it, I don’t care what FAA part it’s under, safe, legal, prudent, if it’s not I’m not doing it

Scroll up to the top of this page under "Notices" ask yourself why do you think APC put that there.


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