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Amazing what happens when you treat people like crap and provide zero customer service or reliability.
ULCC model isn't failing, management is failing. |
Originally Posted by spooldup
(Post 3700329)
Amazing what happens when you treat people like crap and provide zero customer service or reliability.
ULCC model isn't failing, management is failing. |
Originally Posted by BusBoi
(Post 3700396)
I think that's part of it. For the last year it's felt like our management is out to lunch and just trying to keep the wheels on long enough for the merger to be approved and JB management to takeover. Then Ted can go start his country music career in Nashville and Bendo can.......do whatever it is Bendo does.
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Originally Posted by spooldup
(Post 3700329)
Amazing what happens when you treat people like crap and provide zero customer service or reliability.
ULCC model isn't failing, management is failing. Ted and those clowns are still gonna make MINT off of this merger or no merger either way. Unfortunately the little guy gets the shaft |
Originally Posted by BusBoi
(Post 3700396)
I think that's part of it. For the last year it's felt like our management is out to lunch and just trying to keep the wheels on long enough for the merger to be approved and JB management to takeover. Then Ted can go start his country music career in Nashville and Bendo can.......do whatever it is Bendo does.
The big 4 have been working for years now in terms of buying up gates and securing massive aircraft orders to stop anyone else from growing. Just look at DFW. AA brought ERJ's out of the desert to stop us from getting more gates there. Those aircraft are not profitable, yet they operate them at a loss to stop us. Not a problem either, they can subsidize those losses elsewhere in their system or from the AAdvantage members. The big 4 have been allowed to grow so large that effectively they have the entire domestic market locked down. We can operate on like routes, but the ULCC model is perceptually inferior to that of the typical airline model. When comparing ticket prices, the slight "savings" we may offer is not great enough for most passengers to sacrifice some comfort or additional options the bigger airlines provide. The big 4 have found ways to make us as an option an afterthought when shopping for tickets. Yet our management has done nothing to counter this. Essentially the market power the big 4 now hold is insurmountable. It will take literally decades to organically grow any other airline to a size that can compete with economies of scale. Mergers are the only way now. |
Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
(Post 3702669)
For sure they are checked out but...
The big 4 have been working for years now in terms of buying up gates and securing massive aircraft orders to stop anyone else from growing. Just look at DFW. AA brought ERJ's out of the desert to stop us from getting more gates there. Those aircraft are not profitable, yet they operate them at a loss to stop us. Not a problem either, they can subsidize those losses elsewhere in their system or from the AAdvantage members. The big 4 have been allowed to grow so large that effectively they have the entire domestic market locked down. We can operate on like routes, but the ULCC model is perceptually inferior to that of the typical airline model. When comparing ticket prices, the slight "savings" we may offer is not great enough for most passengers to sacrifice some comfort or additional options the bigger airlines provide. The big 4 have found ways to make us as an option an afterthought when shopping for tickets. Yet our management has done nothing to counter this. Essentially the market power the big 4 now hold is insurmountable. It will take literally decades to organically grow any other airline to a size that can compete with economies of scale. Mergers are the only way now. |
Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
(Post 3702685)
& to make matters worse, the DOJ is aiming to argue that merging 2 tiny airlines eliminates competition to the big 4, since a merging of 2 airlines means 1 less airline. So if no one else can merge, "for the sake of the consumer", the Big 4 will continue to drown out everyone else
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
(Post 3702685)
& to make matters worse, the DOJ is aiming to argue that merging 2 tiny airlines eliminates competition to the big 4, since a merging of 2 airlines means 1 less airline. So if no one else can merge, "for the sake of the consumer", the Big 4 will continue to drown out everyone else
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Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
(Post 3702669)
For sure they are checked out but...
The big 4 have been working for years now in terms of buying up gates and securing massive aircraft orders to stop anyone else from growing. Just look at DFW. AA brought ERJ's out of the desert to stop us from getting more gates there. |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3702833)
I am fairly certain that those remote gates in the E terminal at DFW went up for bid and Spirit either wasn't interested or didn't bid enough to get them.
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