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Noisecanceller 01-16-2024 06:27 PM

if you are on LTD if spirit goes under?
 
How would LTD benefits work if you are on them and spirit folds? I’m assuming the insurance company keeps paying.

I don’t think our LTD is like the bigger airlines where the insurance company is just the administrator and doesn’t carry any financial liability.

No idea though.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 01-16-2024 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3753422)
How would LTD benefits work if you are on them and spirit folds? I’m assuming the insurance company keeps paying.

I don’t think our LTD is like the bigger airlines where the insurance company is just the administrator and doesn’t carry any financial liability.

No idea though.

Step back from the cliff bro.

GPullR 01-17-2024 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 3753518)
Step back from the cliff bro.

It's a completely realistic question. Hopefully somebody has the answer.

JulesWinfield 01-17-2024 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3753566)
It's a completely realistic question. Hopefully somebody has the answer.

The union does. Send a dart.

fumeevented 01-17-2024 05:37 AM

It ends.


WHEN DOES YOUR COVERAGE END?
Your coverage under the policy or a plan ends on the earliest of:
- the date the policy or a plan is cancelled;
- the date you no longer are in an eligible group;
- the date your eligible group is no longer covered;
- the date your coverage ends under the Employer-paid group long term disability insurance coverage provided under Unum Policy No. 422567-001;
- the last day of the period for which you made any required contributions; or
- the last day you are in active employment except as provided under the covered layoff or leave of absence provision.

Unum will provide coverage for a payable claim which occurs while you are covered under the policy or plan.

fumeevented 01-17-2024 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3753587)
It ends.


WHEN DOES YOUR COVERAGE END?
Your coverage under the policy or a plan ends on the earliest of:
- the date the policy or a plan is cancelled;
- the date you no longer are in an eligible group;
- the date your eligible group is no longer covered;
- the date your coverage ends under the Employer-paid group long term disability insurance coverage provided under Unum Policy No. 422567-001;
- the last day of the period for which you made any required contributions; or
- the last day you are in active employment except as provided under the covered layoff or leave of absence provision.

Unum will provide coverage for a payable claim which occurs while you are covered under the policy or plan.

I never really thought about it before but turns out it was just a ponzie scheme all along.

JulesWinfield 01-17-2024 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3753587)
It ends.


WHEN DOES YOUR COVERAGE END?
Your coverage under the policy or a plan ends on the earliest of:
- the date the policy or a plan is cancelled;
- the date you no longer are in an eligible group;
- the date your eligible group is no longer covered;
- the date your coverage ends under the Employer-paid group long term disability insurance coverage provided under Unum Policy No. 422567-001;
- the last day of the period for which you made any required contributions; or
- the last day you are in active employment except as provided under the covered layoff or leave of absence provision.

Unum will provide coverage for a payable claim which occurs while you are covered under the policy or plan.

The last bullet point references a provision that might be important to investigate.

likeitis 01-17-2024 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3753587)
It ends.


WHEN DOES YOUR COVERAGE END?
Your coverage under the policy or a plan ends on the earliest of:
- the date the policy or a plan is cancelled;
- the date you no longer are in an eligible group;
- the date your eligible group is no longer covered;
- the date your coverage ends under the Employer-paid group long term disability insurance coverage provided under Unum Policy No. 422567-001;
- the last day of the period for which you made any required contributions; or
- the last day you are in active employment except as provided under the covered layoff or leave of absence provision.

Unum will provide coverage for a payable claim which occurs while you are covered under the policy or plan.

I believe coverage doesn't mean receiving. Of course no one is covered when no one is still employed. If you are already receiving benefits of the insurance you will continue to receive benefits dependant on the end of benefit conditions. I persoanlly was on LTD when a previous carrier went away and received benefits.

fumeevented 01-17-2024 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by likeitis (Post 3753717)
I believe coverage doesn't mean receiving. Of course no one is covered when no one is still employed. If you are already receiving benefits of the insurance you will continue to receive benefits dependant on the end of benefit conditions. I persoanlly was on LTD when a previous carrier went away and received benefits.

Excelent point. I just assumed they were the same thing but i found this:


WHEN WILL PAYMENTS STOP?
We will stop sending you payments and your claim will end on the earliest of the following:
- when you are able to work in your regular occupation on a part-time basis and you do not;
- if you are working and your monthly disability earnings exceed 80% of your indexed monthly earnings, the date your earnings exceed 80%;
- the end of the maximum period of payment;
- the date you are no longer disabled under the terms of the plan, unless you are eligible to receive benefits under Unum's Rehabilitation and Return to Work Assistance program;
- the date you fail to submit proof of continuing disability;
- after 12 months of payments if you are considered to reside outside the United States or Canada. You will be considered to reside outside these countries when you have been outside the United States or Canada for a total period of 6 months or more during any 12 consecutive months of benefits;
- the date you die.

rickair7777 01-17-2024 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3753569)
The union does. Send a dart.

This. Get the correct answer because it depends on the plan and how it's funded. Even if company funded, it might be something that's protected in bankruptcy.


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