Under which program?

Is it even possible for the company to change the business model though?

I'm kinda half joking and half serious. Before the pandemic I actually believed that our economy was based off of free market capitalism, but honestly I'm not so sure anymore. At this point it seems that the government is able to meddle freely in anything and everything without pushback.

Like if Spirit decided to switch to a model akin to Southwest, does anyone else feel like the government could step in and force us to stay a ULCC?

I feel like Judge Young was hinting at it in a roundabout way. SPIRIT WILL FLY THE POORS AND THEY WILL LIKE IT!

The government has been meddling for Lord knows how long... Mortgage interest deduction, student loan interest deduction, EV credits, solar credits, charitable donation deduction, capital loss write-offs.... The list goes on and on..... Barely anything in our economy stands on its own merits.

We make them up on the fly by decree.

Son. Did you forget three year of COVID and all the airline bailouts. And now you think the government is meddling? Lolz.

Contrary to what anyone says, the free market economy is a shadow of its former self.

that Ship has sailed.

The same program we use to fund Ukraine and Israel.

Isn't that the truth!!

Son, the issue with ULCCs has nothing to do with Covid. Spirit and Frontier could end tomorrow and the economy wouldn’t skip a beat. Sorry to whiz in your cheerios.

but feel free to keep on dreaming for a bailout.

If not for covid, legacies likely never make such a firm pivot to economy plus.

that's a small part of it. but most pax are tired of the terrible ULCC. Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant are in for a rude and well deserved awakening. horrendous companies. it was bound to happen eventually. Hopefully they wil be all gone and this profession is back to being respectable. ULCC hurt the profession.
Also most of the rebound was international...

Are you implying i should lose my job? Go F yourself, douchebag.

Ya then hopefully the legacies will disappear too and we can get back to steak and traveling in suits with seats exclusively for the highest earners in society. No more of this coke and stale pretzel followed by nine runs with the trash bag being considered service. Horrendous companies. Hopefully they will all be gone and we can get this profession back to being respectable.


I second the opinion of stop smelling your own farts and believing theyre potpourri.

they’ve been meddling. Your merger was just the latest form of meddling. You’re just suddenly noticing because they meddled with you in the wrong way.

Telling everyone to stay home for 2 years to stomp the curve, and then throwing godknows how much money at the airlines to avoid furloughs, is certainly meddling.

and who is whizing in anyone’s cheerios? It’s just a statement of what’s happened. Chill out. bro it wasn’t an attack on you or spirit.

Keep in mind though, this is the same poster who like two weeks ago said that "GYE is probably safer than most of America" (spoiler alert: it's not)


He/she/it does a decent job trolling though...I give it 8/10

No program is required.

When Atnt merged with someone forget who, Eric Holder threatened to sue to block it until Atnt agreed to phone plans for poor people out of their own pocket with no government funding.

He then dropped the suit. If the DOJ wants something JetBlue and Spirit will have a closed door meeting and DOJ will drop suit.

The DOJ can always maintain their current position, but they will likely see the potential outcome more clearly if they do.

JetBlue is obligated to appeal, and the DOJ can drop the suit and “force” Spirt on them if they think the winds have shifted.

Part of me thinks the hedge funds that have the largest position in Spirt are intentionally getting their wall street friends to hype the BK, so they can convince the DOJ of the urgency in appeal.

There is definitely an element of theatrics at play.

This is all heavy Wall Street moving, the Spirt price is $7.50 and the purchase price is $32.50 if and a slam dunk if DOJ drops the suit everyone is getting there people lined up for a payday. They are in control of a 15 minute 400% ROI.

The DOJ is figuring out how to buy 100,000 shares of Spirit without getting caught.

Vanguard and Blackrock combined own 18% of NK and 30% of JB. Someone at one of these firms didn’t pay the right people.

The judge was clearly biased. Quoting the Les Miserable song "Master of the House" and comparing the inkeeper to spirit. The innkeeper is clearly portrayed as a swindler. The judge decided to block the merger to punish spirit.

but not better than me, right?

Eskimo's not good at trolling he's mentally disturbed. Seriously what kind of weirdo wishes the demise of thousands of peoples job? It really highlights how we should be paying attention to who we're flying with, there are some whackos out there these days.

Former NK here. I’m really sorry to hear about the news there. I thought, for sure, the merger was a done deal. I really feel for you guys having to worry about what the next move will be. Blue skies to all of you and I wish nothing but the best. The NK pilot group is phenomenal.

Thank you for your well wishes your gracefulness. Now beat it stupid.

You’re very welcome. Good luck. You’re the one I hope HR weeds out. :)

[QUOTE=MaxThrust1;3758561]You’re very welcome. Good luck. You’re the one I hope HR weeds out. :)[/QUOTE

No plans to sit with HR anytime soon.

Some people never plan for it. But do me a favor, when you do, give them your best meow. 😉

Sorry my boy; you know that’s strictly reserved for guard.

Same here, and for good reason

Most of our pilot group is probably the polar opposite of what HR looks for, but we're the most fun to work with and drink with on layovers compared to what I've heard from other airline pilots in various hotel bars.

Nobody cares about your new zero turn radius lawnmower. We want to argue about who had the hottest chicks on their boat last weekend (with proof of course!)

is this also like the same claim that only spirit knows QOL? The legacies don’t know QOL because they don’t have DTZ?

Legacy Pilots don’t know sports cars because they don’t drive Miata’s?

Legacy pilots know quality contracts, and their own worth, therefore they can buy all the stupid Miatas they want.

Nope it's just different cultures. Legacy pilots seem like a more vanilla bunch from what I've noticed over the years, nothing wrong with that btw.

Of course they can, but why would when they can buy a real sports car?

Same reason we still steal USA Today.

To use as a window shade?

Quick question from an outsider who knows nothing about the NEO. You guys seem to be hit hard with the engine issues. Is this a problem only with engines produced between certain dates, or is it an ongoing concern for current and future deliveries?

first one.