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SoFloFlyer 04-14-2024 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by blueskies27 (Post 3792528)
Been here two years and thats exactly what I'm doing. I have a couple new hire friennds that are stuck commuting to crash pads on "call me first" and still aren't getting trips. So I bid reserve in hopes to give those guys a chance to get some hours while I sit at home and get paid. Its a win win. Don't understand why more guys who live in base aren't bidding reserve right now. Keep updating your apps I know guys who are getting picked up with only 100hrs in the bus.

I would guess it’s because they have financial responsibilities that require them to credit above MMG (whether self induced or otherwise)

FlyGuy2021 04-14-2024 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3792237)
I highly doubt this is true. The super low time FOs who got hired with a wet ATP will most likely end up at the regionals, which was the standard teeth cutting 121 jet job prior to the post pandemic hiring frenzy.

At least now the pay has increased dramatically and one can actually afford to have a decent life in a major city as a first year regional FO, something a lof us never saw early in our careers.

The bonuses at the regionals are really only for the DEC's at this point, and those will likely be ending soon too. Most of the regional pay bonuses and bumps were temporary if you actually read the fine print. It won't take long for regional pay to come back down. It won't drop back to $23/hour like it was in 2012, but it will certainly be much lower than what it is currently.

But, are you saying that it is ok that your cowarkers at a major airline should go back to the regionals? Pretty bad thing to be saying.

DogPit 04-14-2024 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3792536)
I would guess it’s because they have financial responsibilities that require them to credit above MMG (whether self induced or otherwise)

I bet the ones that are about to be furloughed also have financial responsibilities.

SoFloFlyer 04-14-2024 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3792679)
I bet the ones that are about to be furloughed also have financial responsibilities.

Right, my point was that some pilots didn’t maintain a lifestyle that would be supported on MMG. Should’ve planned better, idk

GhostKhost 04-15-2024 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by blueskies27 (Post 3792528)
Been here two years and thats exactly what I'm doing. I have a couple new hire friennds that are stuck commuting to crash pads on "call me first" and still aren't getting trips. So I bid reserve in hopes to give those guys a chance to get some hours while I sit at home and get paid. It’s a win win. Don't understand why more guys who live in base aren't bidding reserve right now. Keep updating your apps I know guys who are getting picked up with only 100hrs in the bus.

And when there are more reserve pilots than line trips available? How do you decide who gets to hold a line now that you’re sitting on reserve? Oh… seniority.

Every FO at Spirit is qualified to take a job that keeps them flying, puts food on the table and a roof over their head. That extra 100 hours of flight time between now and September isn’t going to keep them from getting furloughed if their number gets chopped. Might as well punch out now and start building seniority somewhere else like Atlas to get training done over the summer.

If you’re sitting on reserve not flying what’s the difference between that and being in indoc and training for 2-3 months.

blueskies27 04-15-2024 04:27 AM

Hard to get much more than MMG even as a lineholder. I was bidding max cedit lines and the most I was awarded was 75. Most of the time it was below 72. And good luck picking up anything in open time. Not like it was a year ago where you could easily manipulate your schedule and credit over 90hrs.

SoFloFlyer 04-15-2024 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by blueskies27 (Post 3792699)
Hard to get much more than MMG even as a lineholder. I was bidding max cedit lines and the most I was awarded was 75. Most of the time it was below 72. And good luck picking up anything in open time. Not like it was a year ago where you could easily manipulate your schedule and credit over 90hrs.

It’s not impossible. You just have to have the right processes in place. I would regularly credited over 100+/month until I left

BusBoi 04-15-2024 02:38 PM

If it helps anyone, jetBlue is still hiring.

Lincoln Osiris 04-15-2024 03:38 PM

Yea lets save 260 pilots so 90% of them can leave in a year anyway? Pass.

turtleshoes 05-09-2024 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3792910)
Yea lets save 260 pilots so 90% of them can leave in a year anyway? Pass.

its well underway. my interview class at delta was all spirit guys. 10-12 year captains, LCAs the works...


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